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    I just viewed the Mens SP on IN on Demand. WOW Dai and Evan!!
    Excellent skating also from Weir and Oda. Off nights for Jeremy and Tomas, I am sure they will do better in the LP. Don't you just love watching the men, lord there was so much talent in that arena, it was crackling.

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    I'm just watching it on CCTV.

    Question: how on earth did Lysacek's score get so close to Takahashi's?
    Taka was *superior*

    ETA: And how is he ahead of Oda too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by beep_beep View Post
    I'm just watching it on CCTV.

    Question: how on earth did Lysacek's score get so close to Takahashi's?
    Taka was *superior*

    ETA: And how is he ahead of Oda too?
    Maybe watch a second time without so much bias and you will see that Evan skated well today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kunstrijdster View Post
    The scores are getting pretty ridicolous anyway. A shame about Tomas and Jeremy. I do really like Jeremy's SP although he is generally not one of my real favourites.

    I'm still undecided as to the skaters my bias should be directed at. Somehow Plushy sentimentally grows on me. Evan is definitely in the mix.
    I think Euros feel about Evan the way many Americans used to feel about Irina. We did not like her style as much as Michelle or Sasha but knew she was a threat to win at every event she competetd at.
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    While I think the men are skating impressively and this in itself is great to see, I wouldn't doubt that there is some degree of Olympic year excitement or maybe "grade inflation" going on, maybe even subconsciously. Isn't it "exciting" in the year that the sport has more than average "attention" from non-dedicated hardcore skating fans that "new World Records" are being set?

    I would bet scores will reset lower starting next season. In the mean time, I will root for great skating. Judging as we know is judging.

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    SP scores seem very high, but at the same time I think everyone (except Tomas & Jeremy) did great and I agree w/ the placement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by janetfan View Post
    Maybe watch a second time without so much bias and you will see that Evan skated well today.
    Well said!

    Superb performances by the top 4! ALL programs fun to watch! What a year!! Olympic by any definition in that we never know WHAT is going to happen! ANYthing is possible!!

    Bring on the free!! We're in for something REALLY special!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by merrybari View Post
    Superb performances by the top 4! ALL programs fun to watch! What a year!! Olympic by any definition in that we never know WHAT is going to happen! ANYthing is possible!!

    Bring on the free!! We're in for something REALLY special!!
    I see that even you do not suggest the scoring made much sense . I have to give you credit here, merrybari - this has not been the kindest thread to Evan (myself included, and I stand by what I wrote). If I were in your situation, I'd be tempted to be, well, a lot less nice.

    I hope to see some great LPs tomorrow, and I also hope it'll be scored properly. And better luck to Tomas! I wonder if he's really healthy and prepared?
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    Quote Originally Posted by skatefancan View Post
    why did johnny only score 84? when his jumps were i think just as good as the others if not better...and his program was as solid as the others.

    anyone have any ideas?
    I love Johnny and I'm so happy he made everything counts but I think his problem is going to be that PCS marks because he does not a single transition on his program and that takes also from his CH mark, he is losing a point or so comparing to the others.

    Daisuke had a fantastic program, so good for him to see him back.

    And Oda, yes, apparently judges are note ready for Oda, maybe on the FS they would mark him even lower on PCS because I do believe he is going to beat them all in TES.

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    This is going to be another nail biting freeskate. I have to say that all Evan and Frank's worry over the quad all these years has been unfounded. If he can get a world championship without one he is set for life. No need for any quad in the near future.

    Predictions for free:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buttercup View Post
    I have to give you credit here, merrybari - this has not been the kindest thread to Evan (myself included, and I stand by what I wrote). If I were in your situation, I'd be tempted to be, well, a lot less nice.

    I hope to see some great LPs tomorrow, and I also hope it'll be scored properly. And better luck to Tomas! I wonder if he's really healthy and prepared?
    Thanks buttercup! It's not easy being an Evan fan around here! Despite that, I respect the hard work that all the athletes devote to honing their craft! I find no need or reason to be unkind!
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    Quote Originally Posted by janetfan View Post
    I think Euros feel about Evan the way many Americans used to feel about Irina. We did not like her style as much as Michelle or Sasha but knew she was a threat to win at every event she competetd at.
    Trust me, there are people outside of Europe who don't like Evan's style, either.

    But I admit he skated well today even if I don't agree with his scores and rotated his jumps properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by herios View Post
    Johnny`s step sequences aren't complex enough.
    hah Just because one makes it look easy, doesn't actually make it easy. After all, his skating style has always been that, airy and light. He has had great footwork in both programs this year, steps are level 3.
    I demand to see the pdf scores for this baby.
    Even though I suspect I already know what this is, the fact that he skated earlier. Classic figure skating judging.

    Sir Lysacek has some funny scores however. And I thought they were funny when he got 79 for a SP with no proper 3A or quad.

    Ah, enough scores ranting. Great competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buttercup View Post

    I hope to see some great LPs tomorrow, and I also hope it'll be scored properly. And better luck to Tomas! I wonder if he's really healthy and prepared?
    I think not...
    about a week ago he really wasn't fit yet (and I was worried!) He's usually very strong in practice and he heard he wasn't up till now in Japan. He also admitted in Czech press before the event that he wasn't at 100%.
    I think the pops are a combination of not being fit and perhaps this didn't help for his mental strength either...plus, if you're not fit and you have to skate right after the warm-up? I don't think that's ideal either...and he doesn't like that to begin with...!

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