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    Post Classical music that I'm surprised hasn't been used for skating?

    As a musician who loves skating and plays the violin,
    I have been thinking of many works that I have seen performed but never have been used in skating before or haven't seen much action of so to speak.

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    Rachmaninov Symphony #2
    The second, third and fourth movements are quite a contrast to what you would normally here in his music. The second and fourth movements are lively and vivacious, while the third movement is very emotional, lyrical and filled with a full color pallete. Note the strong themes throughout

    2nd movement http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKXLuolO1tI
    3rd movement part one
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v60qg...eature=related
    part 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlheJ...eature=related
    4th movement part 1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMiOu...eature=related
    part 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4Ydi...eature=related

    Tchaikovsky
    Nutcracker: Waltz of the Snowflakes

    Prokofiev
    Violin Concerto #1
    This work is very lyrical and adventursome at the same time. It has many highs and lows and can leave one to tears at the end becuase it is very uplifting. I don't think there are any other violin concertos except for the Barber Violin Concerto that can reach out and touch the heart.

    1st movement
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27fU-aeOvg0
    2nd movement
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKW5O...eature=related
    3rd movement
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s7vW...eature=related

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    I'm so glad you mentioned Rachmaninov Symphony #2. It is one of my favourite pieces of music and I actually like this symphony more than any of his piano concertos. All the movements are lovely, but I've always pictured the 3rd movement as being perfect for skating. Whenever I hear it, I'll dream up some imaginary skating routine in my head!

    Thanks for providing the link to Profokiev's violin concerto. I've never heard it before, but it's beautiful.
    Last edited by mycelticblessing; 12-10-2009 at 09:13 AM.

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    I don't know if they've never been used before, but here are some I haven't heard on the ice:

    Brahms's Hungarian Dances

    Russian Dance from Tchakovsky's Nutcracker

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    Quote Originally Posted by NatachaHatawa View Post
    I don't know if they've never been used before, but here are some I haven't heard on the ice:

    Brahms's Hungarian Dances
    Lovely music and lovely skating to it from Sebestyen in her SP Europeans 2003. How I hope she will do well in Vancouver!!!

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    Waltz of the snowflakes is used a lot by lower level skaters in Christmas shows and the like... I guess once skaters get to senior level they think of it as " little girl" music

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    Awesome topic Skatetomusic! I could go on for hours regarding this subject, but since you mentioned you are a violinist, I'll limit myself to violin compositions -

    Lalo's "Symphony Espangol" - I'm truly stunned that nobody has skated to this piece yet. You'll get 'Malaguena" re-used ad naseum, but this thrilling Spanish masterpiece gets ignored?

    Beethoven's "Kreutzer" Sonata - The first movement would make one heck of a long program, although tastefully trimming it down to 4-4 1/2 minutes may be a challenge.

    Bruch's Concerto in g - What a gorgeous middle movement, and nobody skates to it!

    Tchaikovsky's Concerto in D - Beautiful, melancholic slow movement, and a kickass Russian dance for the last.

    Beethoven's Missa Solemnis has a heartbreaking violin solo in the fourth section of the mass that would make a beautiful program.

    Steven Reich's Violin Phase. 'Nuff said

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    I'm also not sure if this was already used or not but if not
    Max Bruch's violin concerto no.1 in g minor
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F89hAPGcR9A
    However, if I have to be frank, I'd much rather prefer it if classical music was not used so much.

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    I think I've suggested this before in threads for particular skater(s), but I'd love to see Respighi's Ancient Airs and Dances used.

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    Ooh, my favorite kind of thread. I'm at work and can't go into detail or find the links, but I want to agree fervently with Rachmaninoff's Second Symphony, which I too love even better than the piano concertos.

    I also like all the violin concertos mentioned. When people mention Max Bruch, for some reason, I always think of Ernest Bloch, and so I recommend Schlomo, a piece he composed for cello. I'll hunt for a link later. Haunting like you wouldn't believe.

    Also, thinking of Respighi, I'd love to see the third section of his Botticelli Triptych, "The Birth of Venus." Maybe it's a bit slow for a complete long program, but I have a whole idea for a sort of group piece. Also, his The Fountains of Rome is plenty fast, and it has some great emotional high points.

    There could be some great Baroque skating music. Remember that lovely march that Denkova and Staviskiy skated to as their compulsory dance in I think 2003?

    I'll hunt for links later. Pardon the pun, considering the type of music we're discussing, but this thread rocks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olympia View Post
    Ooh, my favorite kind of thread. I'm at work and can't go into detail or find the links, but I want to agree fervently with Rachmaninoff's Second Symphony, which I too love even better than the piano concertos.

    I also like all the violin concertos mentioned. When people mention Max Bruch, for some reason, I always think of Ernest Bloch, and so I recommend Schlomo, a piece he composed for cello. I'll hunt for a link later. Haunting like you wouldn't believe.

    Also, thinking of Respighi, I'd love to see the third section of his Botticelli Triptych, "The Birth of Venus." Maybe it's a bit slow for a complete long program, but I have a whole idea for a sort of group piece. Also, his The Fountains of Rome is plenty fast, and it has some great emotional high points.

    There could be some great Baroque skating music. Remember that lovely march that Denkova and Staviskiy skated to as their compulsory dance in I think 2003?

    I'll hunt for links later. Pardon the pun, considering the type of music we're discussing, but this thread rocks!
    Baroque would be very interesting indeed. I would totally like smth like that.
    To put it a la Chandler from Friends, some links would be perfection..

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    I really blame the coaches for the problem of all skaters using the same 15 pieces of music over and over. Spanish=Carmen, malagueña and azor pizolla. Even if the chreograher suggests more obsure pieces the skaters in the end choose the one they can relate to because so and so used it in the 19xx olympics.at the senior levels skaters pick what they know, but the catalog of what they know would be greater if coaches did not give every juvinille level skater Carmen, phantom of the opera and rhapsody in blue

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    I've always wanted someone to skate to Fur Elise. I think it would make wonderful music for a short program. I made a montage to it once and thought it worked well. As far as I know no skaters have used it.

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    I mentioned a few pieces. Here are links for some of them, plus a few more

    Respighi, "The Birth of Venus;" it starts slow but builds. And there's a spot for a spin at the end. Almost a perfect length, too!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdQ9ONMsxd

    Respighi's The Fountains of Rome is kind of long, but it's got some shimmering and very dynamic parts to it. Here's the first section: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPTlqnn51r4

    Denkova and Staviskiy's piece is here--a baroque beauty. I can see something similar being used for a short program for a lady. (Minus the choral part D/S use, of course...alas.)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsAhLiGTva8

    For Spanish music, how about Albeniz? His Iberia has some amazing sections, and they're arranged for either orchestra or solo piano or guitar. Here's a sample:
    Asturias (Leyenda)--the best known section:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEfFbuT3I6A

    Rats! I can't find any orchestral versions of the suite. I must hunt further. But here's a piano version of the second movement which will give an idea of the speed and intensity it can achieve:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBFD7...90E1E&index=29

    I wish someone could figure out a cut of music from the final movement of Tchaikovsky's Suite Number 3, the theme and variations movement. People have danced to it (Balanchine choreographed one version); why not a skating program?

    Oh, edited addition: I know this is too long, but there are some really rich portions for a skate program in Humperdinck's overture to his opera Hansel and Gretel. Here's a performance:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNn3U1unnu0
    Last edited by Olympia; 12-11-2009 at 11:01 PM.

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    Even though I'm a violinist I don't limit myself to just solo violin works. I love orchestral music, concertos, overtures, and chamber music. The main intention for why I posted this topic is so a list of great works can be compiled. Here I go with a few more suggestions.

    Prokofiev: Piano Concerto #3
    1st movement
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBA1H...eature=related
    2nd movement
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w79fa...eature=related
    3rd movement
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGN7i...eature=related

    This is the 1967 recording of Martha Agerich w/Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra conducted by Claudio Abaddo. Considered the best by pengiun music of this composition. Scott and Dulebohn of the USA skated to this as their long program during 2000/2001 and 2001/2002 seasons. They didn't skate it clean though. I consider the second movement to be great music because of the changes of tempo and crescendo and decrescendo's,

    Vaughan-Williams: Fantasy on a Theme of Thomas Tallis
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y7nJL1hpUU

    For those who liked witnessing Yuna's A lark ascending long program and Matt Savoie's Barber Adagio for strings short program this is a great composition of Vaughan-Williams.

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    The Tallis is possibly my favorite piece in the world! It would make a good solo program, but wouldn't it be even lovelier as an ensemble program choreographed by someone like Lori Nichol or Sandra Bezic? Then more of it could be used than just the four-and-something minutes required for a ladies' long program.

    Speaking of Martha Argerich, there's a great Rachmaninoff suite for two pianos, and here is the second movement, the waltz. I'm partial to waltzes. This is the Second Suite; Rachmaninoff also wrote one other one (the Suite Number 1, obviously), but the second one is to my mind the greater beauty of the two.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txt6b6JJixg

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