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    Quote Originally Posted by Marrymeyunakim View Post
    Just checked. GPF technical judge was Myriam Loriol-Oberwiler. She will be on the technical panel of the Olympics too. Myriam has a history of downgrading Yuna's jumps, doesn't she? I'm not saying Yuna is perfect because she's not, but I hope Yuna doesn't find out that the Olympics will have the same technical panel because it could play with her mind.
    Unfortunately, she, most likely, will find out before Olympics, and it will put a lot more pressure on her mind. just think about her GPF LP~

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsisjiejie View Post
    Oh, the results... The applecarts of Yuna, Mao, and Miki are so completely upset with protests, accusations, and interfered-with warm up sessions, that they all screw up their programs, and Joannie, Rachael, and Julia (Sebestyen) step up to the plate while nobody's looking, skate the rafters off the joint, and grab all the medals. How's that?
    I like Joannie (and Sasha for that matter)'s chances as much as I like anyone elses to be honest. The last two ladies Olympic CHAMPIONS (Sarah Hughes and Shizuka Arakawa) were great skaters but were not considered locks on those titles prior to the Games. Anything could and may happen.

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    No kidding! The Tokyo GPF had the worst panel ever.

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    Hmm.... if Hersh was correct, it may prove that Yuna's Korean fans weren't crazy all along. I mean, he's not even Korean, so why on earth would he write about something that wouldn't technically even benefit him? I did feel that the rivary between Yuna and Mao was quite intense, and Yuna fans were always extremely protective of her. However, I also felt that Yuna was sometimes judged unfairly with overly strict standards as well. I absolutely believe that her edge calls and 3-3 downgrades were completely biased.


    From what I understand, Hersh has been around for a while, and why would he go all of sudden insane (like some people say) and write about these conspiracy theories if he didn't feel that there were some truth behind it?
    Honestly, if I were Korean, and trutly adored Yuna, I wouldn't even want her to fly all the way to Korea from Canada to attend this meaningless 4CC RIGHT BEFORE THE OLYMPICS. I just can't see the logical reasoning behind all this pressure, and perhaps Korean people should declare to boycott 4CC if KSU and ISU keep pressuring Yuna. lol. Mao herself (And Yukari) should be enough to attract figure fans at 4CC, just as GPF was successful with Yuna without Mao. We don't need this stupid rivary.

    Also, I am sorry to hear that the same GPF tech panels will be at the olympics. Seriously, are they using the same tech who downgraded Yuna's 3-3 and also gave Yuna "e" before?
    Yuna's 3-3 and flip are supported by numerous skaters and commentators, and I trutly feel sorry for her.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48qQQdB8Ppc

    I saw this on youtube yesterday, and this is a clip of a famous Japanese commentator (Sano Minoru) saying that Yuna's 2009 GPF 3-3 jumps were perfect and everyone he knows believes so. (I think that's what he says, because with my little Japanese experience, I could translate about 80% of what he says, but there was also translation in replies. lol)

    Anyway, I really hope ISU stop bothering Yuna already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by figurejennah View Post
    Hmm.... if Hersh was correct, it may prove that Yuna's Korean fans weren't crazy all along. I mean, he's not even Korean, so why on earth would he write about something that wouldn't technically even benefit him? I did feel that the rivary between Yuna and Mao were quite intense, and Yuna fans were always extremely protective of her. However, I also felt that Yuna was sometimes judged unfairly with overly strict standards as well. I absolutely believe that her edge calls and 3-3 downgrades were completely biased.


    From what I understand, Hersh has been around for a while, and why would he go all of sudden insane (like some people say) and write about these conspiracy theories if he didn't feel that there were some truth behind it?
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    This is just my own personal opinion and I may be in the minority here, but regardless of how long Hersh has been around, I don't give much credence to what he says. From reading some of his past articles, to me, he is clearly biased towards certain skaters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by figurejennah View Post
    Hmm.... if Hersh was correct, it may prove that Yuna's Korean fans weren't crazy all along. I mean, he's not even Korean, so why on earth would he write about something that wouldn't technically even benefit him? I did feel that the rivalry between Yuna and Mao was quite intense, and Yuna fans were always extremely protective of her. However, I also felt that Yuna was sometimes judged unfairly with overly strict standards as well. I absolutely believe that her edge calls and 3-3 downgrades were completely biased.
    I am sorry for my previous words and ITA.

    Quote Originally Posted by figurejennah View Post
    From what I understand, Hersh has been around for a while, and why would he go all of sudden insane (like some people say) and write about these conspiracy theories if he didn't feel that there were some truth behind it?
    Honestly, if I were Korean, and trutly adored Yuna, I wouldn't even want her to fly all the way to Korea from Canada to attend this meaningless 4CC RIGHT BEFORE THE OLYMPICS. I just can't see the logical reasoning behind all this pressure, and perhaps Korean people should declare to boycott 4CC if KSU and ISU keep pressuring Yuna. lol. Mao herself (And Yukari) should be enough to attract figure fans at 4CC, just as GPF was successful with Yuna without Mao. We don't need this stupid rivary.
    KSU already made a team for 4CC by its own rules. If Yuna were to skate at 4CC, one of that members couldn't make it. Why does Mr.Cinquanta interfere in the internal affairs of KSU? Does he intervene in that of another country and request for another skater?


    Quote Originally Posted by figurejennah View Post
    Also, I am sorry to hear that the same GPF tech panels will be at the Olympics. Seriously, are they using the same tech who downgraded Yuna's 3-3 and also gave Yuna "e" before?
    Yuna's 3-3 and flip are supported by numerous skaters and commentators, and I trutly feel sorry for her.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48qQQdB8Ppc

    I saw this on youtube yesterday, and this is a clip of a famous Japanese commentator (Sano Minoru) saying that Yuna's 2009 GPF 3-3 jumps were perfect and everyone he knows believes so. (I think that's what he says, because with my little Japanese experience, I could translate about 80% of what he says, but there was also translation in replies. lol)

    Anyway, I really hope ISU stop bothering Yuna already.
    Sano Minoru, HA HA :chorus:
    He just hasn't seemed like himself lately, or he is too brave.
    He will definitely receive 49 letters from some people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by figurejennah View Post

    From what I understand, Hersh has been around for a while, and why would he go all of sudden insane (like some people say) and write about these conspiracy theories if he didn't feel that there were some truth behind it?
    Honestly, if I were Korean, and trutly adored Yuna, I wouldn't even want her to fly all the way to Korea from Canada to attend this meaningless 4CC RIGHT BEFORE THE OLYMPICS. I just can't see the logical reasoning behind all this pressure, and perhaps Korean people should declare to boycott 4CC if KSU and ISU keep pressuring Yuna. lol. Mao herself (And Yukari) should be enough to attract figure fans at 4CC, just as GPF was successful with Yuna without Mao. We don't need this stupid rivary.
    From the way the article is written, I would guess that Hersh did the following: He heard about the Yuna-4cc controversy from some media outlet/skating forum. He then called up the interested parties, like Cinquanta & Orser, to verify that the facts were indeed true i.e., Cinquanta did indeed threatened KSU with sanctions etc. It seems that as a reporter, he did his share of investigating so that everything was verified before he wrote it. And it's obvious from the substantial parts of the article that he's that stating actual facts rather than giving his own personal opinion on the matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adoreyuna View Post
    I am sorry for my previous words and ITA.



    KSU already made a team for 4CC by its own rules. If Yuna were to skate at 4CC, one of that members couldn't make it. Why does Mr.Cinquanta interfere in the internal affairs of KSU? Does he intervene in that of another country and request for another skater?

    ISU head position is mainly an administrative post. What he seems to be doing here is using the power that his position grants to change the outcome of a competition. It is totally disgusting to see such an abuse of power.

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    It is decided that Yuna shall skip 4CC by KSU's determination just now,
    so she can devote herself to her skating in Toronto.I am very happy for that.
    I hope she is not shaken by these happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chloepoco View Post
    This is just my own personal opinion and I may be in the minority here, but regardless of how long Hersh has been around, I don't give much credence to what he says. From reading some of his past articles, to me, he is clearly biased towards certain skaters.
    Well, you have your own biases, so let's leave it at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marrymeyunakim View Post
    Just checked. GPF technical judge was Myriam Loriol-Oberwiler. She will be on the technical panel of the Olympics too. Myriam has a history of downgrading Yuna's jumps, doesn't she? I'm not saying Yuna is perfect because she's not, but I hope Yuna doesn't find out that the Olympics will have the same technical panel because it could play with her mind.
    Are the actual entries for Olympics tech panels already up? hope it's a hoax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adoreyuna View Post
    It is decided that Yuna shall skip 4CC by KSU's determination just now,
    so she can devote herself to her skating in Toronto.I am very happy for that.
    I hope she is not shaken by these happening.
    Good for her. Yuna should follow the lead of Plushenko. After 2010 Worlds, she should take a break for a couple of years, then come back to compete at the 2014 Olympics. That way there is mininal time spent skating under the auspices of the ISU. The Olympic title is the most widely known, most people don't follow any of the competitions that fall in between the 4 years anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Figure88 View Post
    Well, you have your own biases, so let's leave it at that.
    The person was just stating her own opinion. Why are you always so sensitive with matters considering Yuna? Anyways, isn't it just one judge? I am not saying the judge is not biased but Yuna is not the only one who get unfair downgrades. It just happens in the figure skating world. Also, I wouldn't believe Hersch says because he likes to spark controversy before there is even any solid evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miki88 View Post
    The person was just stating her own opinion. Why are you always so sensitive with matters considering Yuna? Anyways, isn't it just one judge? I am not saying the judge is not biased but Yuna is not the only one who get unfair downgrades. It just happens in the figure skating world. Also, I wouldn't believe Hersch says because he likes to spark controversy before there is even any solid evidence.
    Did you actually read the article? The solid evidence is the fact that Cinquinta admitted send the KSU a request to produce Yuna or threatened sanctions. Moreover, of the tech specialist to choose from, he is choosing the same one that caused so much controversy over her questionable call, a call questioned even by a Japanese skating expert that figurejennah links to. You can draw your own conclusions. chloepoco made a comment, I just rebutted him. that's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Figure88 View Post
    Did you actually read the article? The solid evidence is the fact that Cinquinta admitted send the KSU a request to produce Yuna or threatened sanctions. Moreover, of the tech specialist to choose from, he is choosing the same one that caused so much controversy over her questionable call, a call questioned even by a Japanese skating expert that figurejennah links to. You can draw your own conclusions. chloepoco made a comment, I just rebutted him. that's all.
    Ok to make my statement more clear. I mean we shouldn't believe all what Hersch is saying. He did get evidence for the two things you mentioned above, but the rest is mostly his assumption regarding how it relates to a possible conspiracy. And we must remember that Hersh is a journalist and what journalists love most of all is controvery. And I did read the article but we obviously have different opinions about it so let's just leave it at that. Peace

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