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So, schiele, you are a believer in Jeremy Abbott's Paul Wylie moment? (Someone has that about Alissa as their tag line). If so, good choice since Paul is Jeremy's mentor assigned from USFS.
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So, schiele, you are a believer in Jeremy Abbott's Paul Wylie moment? (Someone has that about Alissa as their tag line). If so, good choice since Paul is Jeremy's mentor assigned from USFS.
She's the 2009 United States of America National Ladies' Figure Skating Champion! :yes: (Not bad for an Ohio girl. )
just a reminder that rumors/conversation on a skaters private life is not something we allow on this board unless it is published by/with the skater's permission. While Aunt Joyce is a great bit of snarkiness, he is not official in anyway - and it's not his job to give us an unwanted look into skaters' lives.
^^ Yeah, Jeremy's skating is amazing! I love him too. The reason that I am a little reserved on hoping is that I don't know if he could be consistant enough at the Olympics. Also, I don't know what the judges would think comparing him with the international big names.
^^ Yeah, Jeremy's skating is amazing! I love him too. The reason that I am a little reserved on hoping is that I don't know if he could be consistant enough at the Olympics. Also, I don't know what the judges would think comparing him with the international big names.
He's always adorable and humble, even in his tweets. He seems the perfect best-friend type for everyone.Very refreshing,compared to Plushenko or Weir. He's the only male skater I love (but I like Stephane,an other adorable personality).Q & A article published today: Abbott Flies High Under the Radar
But isn't that the whole point of the CoP? To stop "comparing" skaters and just score them fairly by the way they perform the various jumps and elements?
I think we can look at US Natls and see how the CoP scored Rachael and Mirai. Rachael clearly won the jump battle and although nobody thinks her skating is as beautiful as Mirai's her pcs were scored as equal to Mirai.
Won't this happen to Jeremy too? Unfortunately reputation scoring is alive and well - but there is more to consider than that.
I wonder if the scoring system is capable of rewarding superior non-jump elements in a fair and realistic manner?
you have a quad and you are entitled to the points for the quad but NOT a boost in your pcs.
I wish people would stop saying all Jeremy has to do is repeat his performance at this year's nationals. Trying to recapture that magical, mystical perfect skate at nationals didn't work out so well for Michelle Kwan, did it? And Jeremy's skates at nationals weren't perfect. He could clean up a lot of his jump landings, plus skate with a lot more speed and power.
I'm still not on board the Jeremy love boat. His posture is a bit stooped over, and his movements are frequently gawky and awkward (gawkward?). There just isn't that sense of spatial awareness and grace that I like in my dancing.
The CoP needs adjustment and will never feel right until the pcs are marked in a way that is more realistic towards the non-jumping elements. A quad does not mean you have better IN, SS, CH, TR or even PE. It only means you have a quad and you are entitled to the points for the quad but NOT a boost in your pcs.
Let's consider that Plushy and Jeremy skate very well in Vancouver.
Under 6.0 we can give Plushy these marks:
Technical ....... ave score 5.9
Presentation ...ave score 5.8
Those are very good marks.
Now here is Jeremy's score:
Technical..........ave score 5.8
Presentation ....ave score 5.9
Also very good marks. It appears to be a tie.
But under the 6.0 system Jeremy would be the winner because 6.0 valued artisitry and presentation over technical skating.
It doesn't feel the same under CoP. The premise of CoP was that the elements would be scored in a way to give everyone a fair chance and that jumps alone would not determine the winner. It feels to me like it is the exact opposite and the fact that Jeremy is better at everything but jumps still gives him little chance against Plushy or even Joubert.
Under 6.0 Plush and Joubert would have more trouble and if they missed a single jump they would pay for it against a more artistic skater showing a clean program. (Yagudin wins in 2002)
Again it feels like the opposite effect as CoP skaters can miss jumps, still be less artistic and still win. (Miki over Akiko at GPF)
The CoP needs adjustment and will never feel right until the pcs are marked in a way that is more realistic towards the non-jumping elements. A quad does not mean you have better IN, SS, CH, TR or even PE. It only means you have a quad and you are entitled to the points for the quad but NOT a boost in your pcs.
Yet we see this happen and for me it appears to be little more than a farce at times.
Rachael may have landed 7 triples at Natls but her artistic presentation was sorely lacking. She was not able to interpret her music for a variety of reasons. Her skating, although technically strong was lacking in presentation.
Think of Michelle and how she might have skated to the music in Rachael's LP. End of discussion :yes: