Say what you will about him, but he won the GPF fair and square. He's a tough competitor and that's his main strength.
Evan is ok. he's a competitor and that is what a sport is all about. Keeping the sport "masculine" will be in his favor.
Jeremy is the best that the USFS has to offer for the Olys. He can do the tricks to the music and without being flamboyant. His biggest competition will be someone with equal Tech, but who sells it with a lot of pizzazz and get the roar of the crowd. Does it affect the PC scores?
Johnny, unfortunately has not developed an arsenal of jumps, however, what he does, he does well.
When thinking about the podium, can any of the above mentioned be on it?
now where is this "you are beating a dead horse" emoticon that you had once used and I had fallen off my chair from laughing?
If that's so then what's the point in competing?Unless Plushenko crumbles somehow, which I don't see happening, he's got an air-tight lock on OGM. I don't see Abbott or anybody else contending.
If that's so then what's the point in competing?
Well, there are other placements besides first, ya know. And it's an honor just to represent your country at the Olympics. And there is a tiny chance Plushenko will make enough mistakes to let someone overtake him.If that's so then what's the point in competing?
I take it that you would have Abbott in 5th or 6th place depending on how Plush's falter affects his placement, and of course, there is always Joubert.Unless Plushenko crumbles somehow, which I don't see happening, he's got an air-tight lock on OGM. I don't see Abbott or anybody else contending. But based on international results, it wouldn't be Abbott who's first in line even if Plushenko falls. I'd say Oda, Lambiel and Lysacek are more likely to step in. I think the pressure to recreate this supposedly perfect Nationals skate will get to Abbott. Think Kwan 1998.
I take it that you would have Abbott in 5th or 6th place depending on how Plush's falter affects his placement, and of course, there is always Joubert.
Nobunari Oda could have been a justifiable GPF winner. His jumps are way better quality. The judges went with Evan.
A clean Daisuke, Jeremy, Evgeni, Stephane, Brian, Nobunari, and Patrick all can beat a clean Evan.
BTW, I'm not a diehard Evan. I just wondered why he's so hated among skating fans. Probably outside of skating forums, he is at least respected. It isn't as if his competitors are perfect as well (I can probably go further into this but I don't want to start a fan war).
Lysacek's PCS at the GPF are second only to Lambiel at Europeans, and most people here believe that in terms of PCS, Lambiel's in another league entirely (things like skating skills, choreography, and Interpretation)
and you saw the landings on all his jumps first hand, no?I agree that Lambiel's PCS should be on a different level to other skaters, but I think also that maybe judges are raising the PCS of other skaters to place on an equal footing. Otherwise, you have skaters winning on PCS scores and that would be inviting a lot of controversy. Judges probably see landing clean jumps as the deciding factor to medalling.
Also, it's possible that Lambiel's PCS would be even higher if he landed his jumps cleanly.
Am I delusional? I firmly believe that Jeremy's LP at Nationals was the best men's LP performance this season. Does anyone honestly think that any other performance by any other man was better this season?
I know things in Vancouver will change, but given that LP, Jeremy has GOT to be one of the few OGM contenders. Disagree?
Aah, but that was under 6.0. You can splat on a jump in COP and still get enough points to win.
Frankly, I'm kinda sick of this arguement. Yes, Joubert has very good speed and is powerful, but Plushenko (???) as of late is NOT fast. It's apparent on TV that he strokes strokes strokes between the jumps and his skating looks laboured, so does his footwork. He might have been better 4 years ago, but so far he's not THAT impressive. Considering the amount of in betweens that Jeremy does besides stroking, his speed is WAY decent.I agree that his LP performance at the Nationals has stood out the crowd. But even with Jeremy's best skating ever in his skating career, I still think that his speed and power were not up to Plushenko and Joubert's level (well, to be precise, Plushenko has power, Joubert has power and speed). And I think the judges look for those qualities in men's skating. So he might not get the same high LP scores with the exact same performance in international competition. It could though definitely put him into the mix with the best.
Not when your jumps are pretty much the only point getter that you can rely on.Aah, but that was under 6.0. You can splat on a jump in COP and still get enough points to win. For example, Plushenko scored the highest total score this season at the European Championships despite having some botched elements.
overtake him.