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    Zaretski or Zaretsky?

    When did they change their names from Zareski to Zaretsky???
    http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00005493.htm

    Anybody knows?

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    I think it's mostly to do with how you spell the names in different countries, as the Russian-origin names are written in cyrillics. Therefore it varies quite a bit in different contexts how the names are spelled.

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    Yes. The ISU uses a sort of international spelling, which is not necessarily the way the skater's name is spelled in their native alphabet. Cyrillic, in particular, gets mangled so much in ISU transliteration; for example, Plyushchenko becomes "Plushenko". I suppose that is because it is considered easier to remember for those who are not Cyrillic users. The letter which used to be transliterated as "shch" is sometimes written as "sch" in English now, as well.

    A lot of names ending in "iy" get transliterated with just "i" or just "y". In the actual Cyrillic lettering, there really are two letters making the sound, i.e., "iy". Nowadays, some seem to feel that the "y" looks too much like the Cyrillic letter that stands for "u", so they hesitate to use the "y" in transliteration of the "iy" name ending. I hope I am not being too confusing. I am very tired from losing sleep, but I really did want to help explain the apparent changeability of names that were originally written in Cyrillic.

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    Well I have an other question?
    Why Yuko should have changed her name? What was the problam with Kawaguchi? I know that now she is russian citizen, but I can't understand the decision of the fedaration...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eszterbeszti View Post
    Well I have an other question?
    Why Yuko should have changed her name? What was the problam with Kawaguchi? I know that now she is Russian citizen, but I can't understand the decision of the fedaration...
    Apparently someone had commented on it, the reason being that they cannot write Kawaguchi in Russian and closest name is Kawaguti. May be same reason as Yeshoua became Jesus.
    iI think Kavaguti's documents being in Russian, so they didn't want to create any confusion with the name.

    may be someone with understanding of russian can clarify on the subject.
    Last edited by life684; 01-22-2010 at 08:06 AM.

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    For Yuko's Russian passport her name was transliterated from Japanese to Russian according to the official rules, which are a bit weird (-ti not -chi), but are recognized by both foreign offices. The result was a Cyrillic name, which 'sounds' Kavaguti.

    Since she had to give up her Japanese citizenship she was also issued a Russian travel/'international' passport, which has the name written both in Cyrillic and in Latin, the former being the one in Russian in her Russian national passport and the other is transliterated from it according to some official rules, which gave Kavaguti.

    And all ISU paperwork is most likely done using whatever name she 'officially' holds, which is Юко Кавагути / Yuko Kavaguti now.


    I assume it was something similar for Zarestski/Zaretsky.

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