Not to start another Plushenko fight , but on the other thread we were reminded of Evgeni's remark that Lysacek's triple Axel has so much pre-rotation that it is more like a Salchow.
To me, it is not exactly pre-rotation, but rather the fact that he throws his picking leg way out to the side. Anyway, the result of this unusual technique is that he actually rotates only about three revolutions ion the air. The judges don't seem to mind it, though.
Any comments by jump experts?