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    Keegan's a little lower than 10th, but he's also a rising star... I've found articles on him lol

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    This "I deserve this and this *whiiiiiine* The judges are so stuuupied *waiiiiiil* I am the best!! I deserve the following PCS, GOE, levels *weeeeeeep*" is the worst, it just makes me sick, we had it from Chan, we now have it from Lysacek, or from Lambiel 2 years ago. But all that whining about the "Quad should be worth more" or "Judging system is sooo stupid" from Joubert, Weir & Co isn't that much better. Just shut the heck up!

    You know what? I am starting to root for the Japanese trio to sweep Vancouver, at least they don't whine about their scores, the judges or the judging system endlessly - well, or at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. P View Post
    Will PChiddy will get the scores to win OIympic gold because his home country gave him a 90 for a program with TWO mistakes? Give me a break.
    Cannot agree more with this!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonichelle View Post
    Keegan's a little lower than 10th, but he's also a rising star... I've found articles on him lol
    I guess I should clarify. I'm sure there are articles out there. But I guess I mean something more in depth. I mean instead of over analyzing the "stars."

    There was a piece in the Seattle Times a few weeks ago about how Seattle folks won't be able to get Canadian Olympic TV coverage this year because CTV (who won the rights there) doesn't have any U.S. satellite relationships. The article pointed out that CBC, which previously had the Olympics and gave access to the U.S. via satellite, was really good about giving coverage to all the different countries and players rather then focus on fluff pieces and personalities, which will be more NBC thing.

    But thankfully we have things like Twitter, Ice Network and other media that allows fans to get to know the skaters themselves.

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    Thanks for the response earlier. Coverage of skaters like Keegan is also part of the PR point I was trying to make. Skating is increasingly a small fish in the big (and getting bigger) pond of sports, especially in the US. It really has to fight for position and notice any way it can. Listening to many of the teleconferences with the top contenders last week, you could almost tell which of the reporter were ones who cover skating as a sport and understand the technical details, versus the one who cover it as a curiosity among all their other assignments, or worse as piece of fluff entertainment. If the press were to take the time to notice that depth among US men has gotten better and was on display last night, skaters like Keegan and Armin and Dornbush might get a boost in being introduced early to the public. That's always a nice set up for the next cycle

    Those who were skating fans almost 20 years ago knew who Kwan was back in late 92 or early 93 before she won her first national medal. Same with Lipinski. V/M were being talked up before they became standouts. Far too often US media takes on a show me first mentality rather than taking to time to invest in scouting new talent in advance, at least in sports other than the big three.

    Thanks to things like IceNetwork more of us get to see the young juniors and seniors who don't make TV while they are still developing. It's so useful. Hopefully, Keegan will make the TV broadcast tomorrow and does not get preempted by fluff. I think NBC is planning to show the final two groups. I missed the first 30 min of UniSports last night.. Did they show Keegan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcoates View Post
    Thanks for the response earlier. Coverage of skaters like Keegan is also part of the PR point I was trying to make. Skating is increasingly a small fish in the big (and getting bigger) pond of sports, especially in the US. It really has to fight for position and notice any way it can. Listening to many of the teleconferences with the top contenders last week, you could almost tell which of the reporter were ones who cover skating as a sport and understand the technical details, versus the one who cover it as a curiosity among all their other assignments, or worse as piece of fluff entertainment. If the press were to take the time to notice that depth among US men has gotten better and was on display last night, skaters like Keegan and Armin and Dornbush might get a boost in being introduced early to the public. That's always a nice set up for the next cycle
    One of the challenges of this is that you're talking about the journalism industry — and in industry that has lost tens of thousands of people among their ranks. Not every paper has the resources for a Brennan, Hirsh or Judd (the Seattle Times' Olympic reporter). And less and less papers have such resources to have someone cover the sport full-time. Most papers have had to pick and choose what they cover...and in some cases they choose to cover figure skating, as you said, as a curiosity or fluff assignment.

    That said, I think there's a great opportunity for some bloggers and skating sites (such as GS) to step up and really talk to these skaters and get to know a little more about them. I think Aaron at Loops, Axels and Spins really has that potential, especially since he's friends with them on Twitter on Facebook. And I think there are some other bloggers that do this.

    The media for so long has been the ones to cover the news and I really believe that good figure skating reporting and journalism doesn't necessary have to come from the mainstream media.

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    no idea about universal sports... he's getting a fair amount of coverage locally, though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. P View Post
    One of the challenges of this is that you're talking about the journalism industry — and in industry that has lost tens of thousands of people among their ranks. Not every paper has the resources for a Brennan, Hirsh or Judd (the Seattle Times' Olympic reporter). And less and less papers have such resources to have someone cover the sport full-time. Most papers have had to pick and choose what they cover...and in some cases they choose to cover figure skating, as you said, as a curiosity or fluff assignment.

    That said, I think there's a great opportunity for some bloggers and skating sites (such as GS) to step up and really talk to these skaters and get to know a little more about them. I think Aaron at Loops, Axels and Spins really has that potential, especially since he's friends with them on Twitter on Facebook. And I think there are some other bloggers that do this.

    The media for so long has been the ones to cover the news and I really believe that good figure skating reporting and journalism doesn't necessary have to come from the mainstream media.
    I agree about the blogs especially since it's obvious many reporters do some of their research using them (or wikipedia).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcoates View Post
    I agree about the blogs especially since it's obvious many reporters do some of their research using them (or wikipedia).
    I think at this point it goes in both directions. A lot of bloggers also simply link to pieces from mainstream newspapers as well. And often times a blog is nothing more than that person's opinion.

    I think that one advantage of covering skaters early is that you do build a relationship with that skater and even when they're big, they'll give you access because they'll remember that you covered them when they were early in their career and also they'll probably trust you because you've shown a track record of solid, accurate coverage.

    And Tonichelle, I do think that local papers do a great job covering skaters in their area and thanks to the Internet, we can read these stories too.

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    "U.S. ladies sitting out of the loop."

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/ol...D3aPc:_Yyc:aUU

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    Another Keegan article: http://www.adn.com/sports/story/1098226.html

    Article on Lukas Kaugars (novice men), also mentions other Colorado Springs area skaters: http://www.gazette.com/sports/spring...pionships.html

    Moore/Gaumond article: http://www.coloradoan.com/article/20...30/1006/SPORTS

    Article about Codero Zuckerman and Baxter Burbank (novice men and junior dance): http://newsminer.com/bookmark/5581189

    Article featuring Mark Ladwig: http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/266136/

    Ryan Bradley article: http://www.spokesman.com/stories/201...ng-free-skate/

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    Christine Brennan article was interesting, terrible writing. She says Jeremy Abbott doesn't have international experience, hello Christine, he was the first US man to win the Grand Prix with one of the highest scores. Hello Christine, you thinks Evan should have been given first place no matter how many mistakes he makes in him programs over someone who does better than him because he is the world champion. This is why people have stopped watching figure skating with this mind set. Also, hello Christine, have you ever heard of Paul Wiley?? He never won National, etc. but was one of the brighest US skaters at the Olympics and brought home a silver metal.

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