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  1. #166
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    Quote Originally Posted by IceAngel2010 View Post
    Hi guysl

    I'm looking for the name of the tango type music that Diane Szmiett skated to, I believe in her long program? If anyone recalls this or knows where I can find a video/this info it'd be great.

    Many thanks in advance!
    You can find the information in her profile from the ISU website.
    Here's the link:
    http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00007793.htm

  2. #167
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    Canada has some pretty good ladies now! Some talent coming up as well.

    There is Joannie
    Cynthia Phaneuf
    Amerlie Lacoste
    Diane Szmiett
    Adriana Sanctis
    Myriane Samson
    Kate Charbonneau

    All have the big jumps

    Some good skaters!

    Canada is building depth!!!

  3. #168
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    Quote Originally Posted by IceAngel2010 View Post
    Hi guysl

    I'm looking for the name of the tango type music that Diane Szmiett skated to, I believe in her long program? If anyone recalls this or knows where I can find a video/this info it'd be great.

    Many thanks in advance!

    The music listing for Szmiett's LP on that ISU page mentioned above is actually incorrect. She skated to Liebestraum by Liszt. (I assume this is the piece you were talking about - it's a waltz rhythm, though, not a tango)

    I really really enjoyed Szmiett's skating this season, to my surprise - especially this program. Simple, uncluttered elegant style, very steady in her delivery. Found her relaxing to watch. I hope she continues on that path of improvement in her expression.

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    Hmm

    Quote Originally Posted by persimmon View Post
    Yes, the scoring at this nationals was very inflated, but honestly, if Yu na can score ~134 in the long with only 5 triples, repeating the lowest scoring one (toe), and not even attempting a flip or loop, I don't see why Joannie can't score ~140 with a seven triple program that repeats Salchow as opposed to Toe-loop, where all types of triples are attempted and successfully landed. And Yu na, like it or not, is somewhat vulnerable to an edge calle on her flip, while Joannie never gets any edge calls. I have been watching figure skating competitions for years, and Joannie has some of the cleanest, most proper technique on her jumps that I have seen. Plus, they are HUGE. Easily deserving of a +2. It is difficult to appreciate just how good her jumps are until you see them in person. That triple loop she did in the long was probably the best I have ever seen from a lady skater. She doesn't have the best spins or spirals, but then neither does Yu na. I know this makes me sound like a Joannie uber, but I'm not. I am just amazed by the quality she displayed yesterday. What she does not have is Yu na's nerves, but she did say that she was very nervous before the long yesterday so...

    It's really anyone's game in Vancouver. What looked to be a one-horse race suddenly doesn't look so certain. Joannie has proved she can deliver the goods. If she skates clean, she can win. If Yu na skates clean, she can win. If Mao skates clean, she can win. If Miki skates clean, she can win. I also have a feeling that the short program will be a lot closer in terms of scores than it has been so far. I can't seen Yu na having a 15 point lead going into the long. I think the judges, if they have the chance based on the performances, are going to make sure everything is decided by the long, not the short. I, for one, am REALLY looking forward to Vancouver!!!
    I disagree. Yuna's "lowest scoring" triple toe jumps are in combination (3Lz-3T, 2A-3T) whereas Joannie's triple jumps are sequence jumps that have much lower value(she doesn't get full credit for seven triples). In other words, just counting the number of triple jumps is rather stupid comparison. Plus, If you think Joannie deserves +2 GOE on her jumps, Yuna shoud be getting +3s because Yuna's jumps are far better in quality. Joannie has clear take off edge but she pre rotates her toe jumps (lutz, flip) and even though she lands the jumps some of them are off-axis. Also, you said Yuna does not have the best spins and spirals and I agree with that but it is far superior than Joannie's in every aspect (especially layback spin I mean come on just look at them). Only flaw in her spin is her free leg position in a layback spin but she has beautiful back position + biellmann and her flying sitspin is the best out there. Her spiral is fast with clean elegant positions with great edge control (spiral is not all stretch and flexibility).

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