I feel bad for her, even though I don't like her.
I feel bad for her, even though I don't like her.
I just saw her SP. I felt she just attempted one jump and she fell on that oneI feel she is a little chubby for a figure skater and that may cause her movements to look clumsy. If she wants to be more artistic, I think she should lose some weight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjZrxNgNg18Originally Posted by miki88
I just saw her SP. I felt she just attempted one jump and she fell on that one
Here it is. Actually I wan surprised. It wasn't as bad as everyone is making it out to be. All her jumps must have been underotated or else she got low levels on her other elements. She didn't pop anything and landed her combo and her axel. Certainly no worse than Bebe usually (well of course Bebe is more graceful and has better lines).
Without an "intervention" and soon, Caroline's skating career is likely heading in the same direction as Mira's. Possible there is a mama issue there as well.
I have to agree with you about Caroline Zhang going down the same road as Mira Leung. They really do have similiar issues that need to be fixed. I think it might be too late for Mira but I think Caroline still has a chance, well maybe. We will have to wait and see.
I watched this and all I could think was 'This is someone who was an Olympian four years ago???'. Over the years she has not improved. In fact, she has regressed. The spins were slow. The double axel is still underrotated. Her jumping technique is awful. Her posture is horrible. She just does not look like she is having fun out on the ice. If she really wants to stay in, she needs to take a hard look at her skating and fix everything. Nice programs from Lori Nichol will not hide deficiencies in skating technique. Otherwise, she needs to move on as younger skaters are passing her.
It's good that we are seeing the same pattern emerging here. As I have watched Caroline's season, I had Mira Leung in mind.
The conclusion I came to is that acquiring sound technique is worth the tremendous effort and the short term compromises that it involves.
The point is that it's ok if a skater, in the process of learning to jump and stroke differently, falls behind for a while because the old reliable technique is abandoned. Which is why I very much regret that Caroline has not agreed to work with a coach that would force those changes on her. On a positive note, Mirai Nagasu has and I am very appreciative that she had the insight to agree to it. Frank Carroll is no easy coach, but the benefits outweigh the costs.
First of all to the naysayers here, the one top feature about Mira Leung from the beginning has been her guts and determination to make the 2010 Olympics. It must be a huge blow to her personally that she did not make her goal, but I don't think we have seen the last of this determined young lady. It's easy to sit here in the comfort of our homes and judge someone. We also saw today the return of another skater that most people had written off - Cynthia Phaneuf - she made the Olympic team. I think Mira Leung could take the same path as Cynthia - and return to competitive skating. It's a bit of a shock to hear this news about any skater. Eventhough Mira may be taking time off, I am sure she will be watching from the sidelines and planning her return.
Ladskater...Tell me you're kidding here?
No way, no how, is Mira anything like Cynthia. The reason why Cynthia made it back wasn't just because of her work ethic or belief in herself. Although they also had a lot to do w/it, but she also listened to what her coaches told her to work on and improve and then did those very things.
That's a big chunk of the reason why Cynthia's back. When has Mira ever taken any of the advice given to her and followed through w/it? Never!! It's always the judges....her coach(es)...Skate Canada...bad hotel room...whatever to blame for her results the last few years, but it's never her or Mommy's fault for how badly Mira's skating's gone downhill.
Someone really does need to step in and do something, because if Mira really thinks she can be a contender over the next few years w/her current mind set, it's not going to happen. Not only that, but it'll be beyond sad to watch.
I think the last little bit of the following article says it all...
The Toronto Star ~ DiManno : Leung skating across thin ice
I really hope someone gives a dose of reality, but then again, would Mira listen to it? :sad:Yet she claims to have her eyes fixed on the next Olympics, four years hence, when she'll be 24.
And that is kind of sad, actually.
"For better or for worse, this is my thing.''
It is sad, (I see parallels to Meissner and Zhang here) but only time will tell. If she wishes to become a contender again she'll have to make a monumental decision to abandon the status quo and get with someone who can "whip" (figurative use here!) her back into shape.
Mira must be going through one of the most difficult times in her life especially when she has been the poster child for the Vancouver 2010 Olympics. (Do you remember when she said her goals were to land a quad salchow, triple axel, medal at Worlds, then top eight at Worlds)? I think that if she really has the fighting spirit, she should have stayed to do the long program. Withdrawing makes her look like a cop out, quitter, defeatest. A true competitor will stick it out and put on a brave face for the long program. At least then she could say she tried her best in the long and possibly show that she has the ability to bounce back when faced with adversity. At the very least she could say she is not a quitter. Does anyone feel that she should have stayed?
Last edited by passion; 01-17-2010 at 09:15 PM.
Passion:
I agree that Mira should have competed her long.
In order to make it big you have to learn how to tough through the hard times.
When she quits, psychologically she would look back at that event and say I am much better than that and I just wasn't feeling it that day. If she toughed it out, perhaps reality would more likely dawn on her.
The problem is that her poor SP at nationals is exactly where she is at the moment.
Until she accepts the truth of where she truly is, she won't improve.
I agree that she should have finished it out but that's assuming she WD because she "quit" rather than due to injury or other physical setback. I didn't see anything in the article that definitely said that she WD just because she wanted to.
If the stuff about her mom really is true, then I feel for her IF she wants something different. But the worst thing about it is the possibility that you're being tricked into feeling that you're better than you really are. Because then, there is really not much motivation to improve. The results at competitions say it all though.
Actually, passion, I wanted to say exactly what you said, but I didn't want to feel like I was rubbing in Mira's difficulties. "Guts and determination" are not the words I would use for someone who has withdrawn after a bad short program.
Mira has never been my favourite skater. She lacks personality and polish, from what I can tell, on the ice. As she hails from British Columbia, and this year's Oly's are in Vancouver, the outcome must have been especially devastating for her.
So yeah, I don't know how to feel. Something about her gives me unpleasant vibes...but I do have some sympathy.
Mira's former coach is one of the best,and I am sure that she or someone else attempted to fix Mira's technique some time ago. Also,someone from her Section should have forced the issue with the grooming flaws. Mira being stubborn,etc has already been addressed. However,there is a possibility that her focus and the academic ability that probably made her spend her free time at competitions studying instead of socializing may have had something to contribute to the dislike referred to in some quarters. If her mother is protective of her it is sometimes necessary in the face of outright hostility and sometimes bullying. That said I feel that the coaches should never have permitted the kind of technique Mira displays. It brings to mind a very experienced coach telling my own young daughter that a Lutz take off will never be accepted unless it is fom a clean outside edge. It was hard to see others flutzing and getting credit,but later,when it counted the lesson paid off.
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