01-18-2010, 08:16 AM
Some people do not want to acknowledge that there is a procedure for selecting the Olympic Team. They demand an Olympic Trial in the form of the last Nationals before the current Olys.
Where these people get confused, I believe, is that the best skater(s) are well known before the last Nationals before the Olys. Those same skaters place 1,2,3,at the Nats, and it appears that the Team was decided by the Nats and not by the special committee. But not so. The decisions coincided.as they often do.
This year the best Pair Team for the last 3 years faltered at 1 and only 1 competition and finished too far down to be given an ok by the special committee which then decided to ok the 2nd place team at the Nats While I did not think it was the best decision, I was not a part of the deliberations.
Janet - Please show me the official version of the established procedure which you are talking about?
Originally Posted by janetfan
As I have said before the results of the Nats more often than not, coincide with the special committee's selection.
Thank you Nadine. I am the black sheep of the Board, but without black sheep, we would all be in agreement that so and so should change the color of her dress.
Originally Posted by Nadine
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01-18-2010, 08:52 AM
Is it a coincidence that for so many decades the medalists at Natls are chosen for the Olympic team?
Originally Posted by Joesitz
If you can't accept as mathman pointed out the "reality" of how it is done - or comments from gsrossano and Sylvia - then I see little chance of changing your mind.
It is what it is and I can think of very , very few times when the medalists were not selected.
Michelle in '06 comes to mind - and she followed a rule by petitioning for injury reasons. That is a rule and if Evan had been hurt this weekend he could have done the same thing.
Harding was kicked off after winning Natls in '94 - she went to court and the courts told the committee to take a hike.
So much for your committee. Athletes have rights and gsrossano explained it all very well recently.
Since then the "rules" have been changed but as many have continuosly pointed out it was more about keeping US Skating in control of the event.
Whatever - no disrespect meant - I just don't agree with what you are saying.
01-18-2010, 12:07 PM
Except they don't.
Originally Posted by Mathman
I just looked at their score sheet and one of their element has a +2 GOE.
The rest have + GOE almost across the board.
I/J have -GOE almost across the board.
In international competition, both teams have -GOE. This is why what I/J scored is more in line with the international judging and what the 2nd team scored is questionable.
When the result is so close, I think the committee needs to justify sending one team over another. Why have a committee if 1st and 2nd always get to go?
Yesterday Sandra mentioned that the committee might be picking between Ryan Bradley and Johnny Weir but she said something about being old school and for her, the top 3 go.
Originally Posted by Mathman
I would imagine Sandra has some formal contact with some members. Otherwise, where on earth would she get that idea that Weir might not be selected because his LP was not good even after he placed 3rd.
So, do I believe Sandra or do I believe Philip Hersh, Gsrossano, Sylvia?
Just to say it's not so dry and clear.
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01-18-2010, 12:30 PM