Olympic Gold Dance Team
Now that we've seen the top 4 perform their Olympic OD & FD, which team do you think has the most promise?
Tanith BELBIN / Benjamin AGOSTO
Meryl DAVIS / Charlie WHITE
Oksana DOMNINA / Maxim SHABALIN
Tessa VIRTUE / Scott MOIR
Let's try not to turn this thread into which is your favorite team.
Which team are best at Compulsaries? Which team has the best OD this year? Which team has the best FD this year? Which team will be left off the podium? And which team will win Olympic gold?
Honestly, either Davis/White or Virtue/Moir. For the past two seasons they have come in consecutive places in almost every competiton, 1-2, 3-4, etc...and it is always VERY close. They have both beat one another several times, but this season Davis/White have had the edge. I do believe Virtue/Moir will lead after the CD, but I think the strong technical ability of the Americans in the OD and FD will lead them to a slim, but nonetheless, glorious, victory at the Olympic Games.
Although I haven't ultimately seen the result of a lot of hard work and training, I refuse to count out Delobel and Shoenfelder as medal contenders. They are also consistently strong in the compulsory dances... Of the four teams listed though, I'd say Belbin and Agosto may have the edge in the compulsory dance, Davis and White in the OD and Virtue and Moir in the FD. Domnina and Shabalin's performances at Russian Nationals were certainly inventive and eye catching but if you want about sheer technique - I wasn't seeing it on the level I would expect from them. That said, that's not to say they couldn't clean up their act a little and be right in there or even on top. And there are certainly other strong teams too - like both Italian teams, like the Kerrs etc. that will factor into that top echelon and make things very interesting.
Originally Posted by Bruin714
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I'd say Davis and White are the early favorites for gold
The Linichuk -team has won last year.You can discuss about it, was it correct or not. But I cannot see the reason why their lobby couldnot be succesful this year. My personel opinion that in CD Domnina-Shabalin will win, Belbin-Agosto will be a close 2nd. The best OD is Davis/White`s, the best FD is Virtue-Moir`s so far. We will see what happens there. Don`t think that Delobel-Schoenfelder won`t be in the package. They will be also THERE.
I think Davis and White are still on the rise and peaking at the right time. Belbin and Agosto, Virtue and Moir, and Domnina and Shabalin, also Delobel and Schoenfelder, are all just a bit past ripe, in my opinion.
Dont think Davis&White will win Olympics at their age,despite they are pretty good,but i expect them on podium.
Virtue&Moir,BelAgosto,DomShab are all contenders,hope not politics and lobby will win.
I DO THINK Delobel&Schoenfelder will be among the best,because they are who really deserve it after 2006...of course,they have to skate as strong as they can
Meanwhile in a parallel universe ....
To be honest, this is really going to be a close competition where every little mistake will count. To be honest Domnina/Shabalin are out of the running for gold, Shabalin's knees are just not dependable. Belbin/Agosto have a nice FD but I do not think they will get the OGM. So its really between Davis/White and Virtue/Moir. Like the previous poster said the OD shold go to Davis/White and the FD to Virtue/Moir. It'll be real intresting to see who comes out on top though. Personally, even though I am a D/W fan, I think should V/M should win. Every OGM ice dance team should have a memorable FD that will looked upon in the later years. Personally, V/M's Adagietto is superior in the overall sense than D/W's Phantom of the Opera.
pour atteindre l'inaccessible étoile!
the OGM team SHOULD have a memorable Fd that can be easily archived as classic...but the system old or new determines the winner by the combination of the three dances. and mathematically as of what we've seen, D/W is top. but it would be nice to have mahler FD win (at least within the FD results)
Originally Posted by theresa
i never understood/ liked the fruit metaphor. peaking....falling vs comeback or just skate well. perhaps it deals with skating psychology but honestly a skater's performance shouldnt be determined by following a pattern/ direction like a sine graph.
Originally Posted by Mathman
judging from teams that have showed the world this seasons programs:
CD- tie between B/A and Dom/Shab
FD - D/W and V/M
B/A - their OD doesnt feel very settled to me, but on the other hand their FD is very strong. similar to V/M they need to be clean and have a bolder presence for their prayer to work on the audience.
after seeing Dom/Shab's OD and FD....im heavily disappointed. im wondering how they will develop and progress towards Vancouver. OD - personally a bad joke. FD- mess. all the best to his knee.
Davis and White are rock solid. despite authenticity, just keep their OD tight, sharp and clean and their FD more believably presented and they'll see gold.
V/M - OD is a close close competitor with D/W's but their wild flamenco character is keeping away from consistency and perfection. FD - clean up rough edges (costume malfnctions, etc) and it will be an intense final battle - its a program that NEEDS to be PRISTINE in order to work.
as much as it hurts, Del/Schoen has been M.I.A. thus we cant say much. judging from their courchevel holiday gala exhibition performance, they seem to cope well to the...physical....changes. i am dying to see their two very pride-filled programs. but defintely strong CD technicians that gives them a strong foundation. thier Od's arent the seasons favorite/ crowd pleasers but they do the job in theme and presentation. FD - i have fallen in love with Brel's "La Quete" i have been imagining how the program would be choreographed (especially for the final part [lift?]) this program will be very emotional and moving. perfect choice for their final (competitive) bow.
K/K: to me, juxtaposed with the "top" teams - i can't picture them within the podium. OD is bleh, FD is...too gala. inconsistency + lack of competitive difficulty
P/B - im bored with western themed ODs, im not sold by their FD.
F/S - missed them at GPF but their Fd will be beautiful
K/N - ...speechless.
C/P - 1st olympic babies! OD needs techinical work and changes, FD needs refinement and ease.
S/B - bland and juniorish
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I think Davis and White have a good chance of winning. They are fast, confident, expressive and consistent. I like all three of the top North American teams, and will be happy with any of them on top - hoping for a fair result, of course!
Meanwhile in a parallel universe ....
Yeah D/W are definitely in the running for gold. As I said before, I am a huge D/W fan but for them to be OGM alongside past winners such as Anissina/Peizerat, Grishuk/Platov, Klimova/Ponomarenko, and Torvill/Dean they really pale alongside. Including V/M as well. D/W have not matured and have not mastered those clean, long lines and footwork......Am I the only one who thinks this?
Originally Posted by kareliz
B/A or V/M for the CD
D/W for the OD - I haven't seen B/A OD this season
V/M for the FD
Overall, I think V/M are going to win gold. I really think it will be a North American sweep which will be exciting to see
Well, I've certainly read this same criticism of them in the past. I think their footwork is just fine, it's fast and clean and it's just what the judges want to see. All the teams struggle to get Level 4s on their step sequences and D/W aren't any better or worse than all the rest. Clean, long lines...well, they aren't tall skaters and don't have the classic line but you know what? I don't think that is rewarded as much as it used to be. Look at the guidelines for levels and GOEs and you'll see what I mean. D/W and V/M have developed with CoP and they present what the judges like, imo.
Originally Posted by theresa
Don't leave out DelShoes and DomShabs for the CD. One of them could rack up a huge lead and act as a podium spoiler.
Originally Posted by i love to skate
I'm of the opinion that V&M also have a superior CD, certainly comparable to the Europeans. With more tweeking of their OD, and their wonderful FD, they could be the podium spoilers, and rightfully so. At just 20 and 22 years old, they have a maturity far beyond their tender years and the skating skills to match. I certainly wouldn't rule them out like some have. If the judging is fair, they should be on the podium.