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    I don't think that Sarah can be considered underrated, regardless of her underrotations or anything else. She has won one major competition, and that competition happened to be the Olympics. She got media publicity and international respect from people within the skating world for that win, but she has only had ONE major win. For someone who does not have a significant amount of hardware, people give her quite a bit of respect. I don't find her underrated in the slightest.

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    It's interesting to see what people percieve to be the criteria for being underrated. Generally I agree with what hockeyfan said-I also think when you skated, who you skated against etc, also plays apart in being underrated.

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    I agree that Ryan Jhanke has always been underrated. I've been a fan for years and waiting for him to be "discovered". His line IS to die for, and his transitions are THERE. But, the only reason he was on the podium this past year was because all those jumpers splatted and had NOTHING to show in a program when there was no jumping going on. He did. Unfortunately for us viewers, I don't think the lesson will be learned by the judges and the powers that be, anyway. I think they will still keep on rewarding all those gawky jumpers and nothing else, and it will keep on spawning embarrassing national spectaculars like last year's nationals.

    So, obviously, Ryan represents what I always thought figure skating was---in opposition to jump skating ---which is rewarded today. I think that's what the apples and oranges are here in this thread that we won't ever be able to agree upon. So, we can agree to disagree about that.

    Otherwise, Fumie, Bielman, Punsilan and Swallow, Liashenko, and I'm sure I can think of some more presently.

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    I think, maybe, if we establish just what would be the normal rated skater and see if any skaters can come up to that standard. I think, too, that overrated skaters should be avoided since that term could be cause for a lot of rehashed bashings.

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    Originally posted by sk8m8
    Bourne and Kratz, though highly decorated and respected, still underated for what they did and how they did it. Should have AT LEAST Two olympic medals and 3-4 World championships. Gave the world a look at what North American Ice Dancing Style could be.
    Could you please explain this opinion, because it makes absolutely no sense to me. I don't understand how they were 3rd at all in the FD in the 98 Olys. The program was full of posing and insanely easy steps. They also had an OD that was nothing but crossovers. How A&P's utterly stunning R&J FD placed behind B&K makes no sense to me. And saying "AT LEAST" leads me to think that you think they should have more than 2.

    Also, please explain how they should have 3-4 World Championships, when even the one they have is hotly disputed. I don't see where they should have more than one at all.

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    Hmm... in North America, Grischuk and Platov, IMO, are very underrated. Probably the best Ice Dancers ever to compete, they don't get the respect they deserve. They had a 4 year winning streak, and some people still place them at such a low level. I regard them as the most techinical stunning pair ever, and the best ever.

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    Dear Dragon,


    Thank you for pointing out our disagreements in such a positive way. I appreciate your representing "your opinion vs. my opinion" in a you said "A, B, C, D Happened" when I see it as "W, X, Y, Z" fashion.

    Too many time on the boards it's " You're such an idiot for feeling that way. You must be ignorant when it comes to skating!"

    My OPINION is that many of the World placements where Bourne and Kratz were placed 3rd or lower, often times they should have ranked higher. Once again, just the way I see it. I've often thought that many of the teams that placed above them skated as if they were skating for a soap opera (daytime saga, for all those that don't know what 'soaps' are) Way overwrought and melodramatic.

    Olympic Medal #1...... I thought B7K should have taken the Bronze BEHIND A&P. Though I respect G&P, I felt their dancing was overwhelmed by the overemoting and bad acting. I mean, who can pay attention to "quiet skates" when BOTH partners look as if they are going through labor pains on ice?

    Olympic Medal #2..... THough the Luthiuanians may have a legitimate claim to the bronze, I thought the Italian's Mistakes were ever so much more substantial than the Canadians. BASED ON THE PLACEMENTS, I would have switched the Italians and B&K. ( Side note: I didn't think the Russians PROGRAM was so hot for the Olympics. Lovely skaters with great technique, but a program that left me cold.)

    I see Ice Dancing as the perfect blend of Technical and Presentation. I have always felt that overemoting and "gnashing of teeth and knitting of brow" really distracts from the total performance.

    THis is where I think Victor and Shae Lynn really excelled. THey alwasy bring a balance of good emotional expression and tight and precise technical abilities. As for thier Riverdance olympic program, it is a non-diputed fact that the judges stated clearly that they WOULD NOT medal if they kept this program for competition. While not widly my favorite program that they have performed, it was inventive, lively, moved with terrific speed and brought a new "look" to the ice dancing arena.

    So there you have it, MY OPINION ( THis is NOT directed at you Dragon, you were completely appropriate in your comments.)


    God love Paula for giving us a forum where we can all express our thoughts and feelings with honor and respect for our other posters. Happy holidays all.

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    Okay, now i understand your opinion on the olys. I disagree though, since i think G&P had the most difficult program of the comp, and performed wonderfully.

    Still though, I don't see how B&K should be 3-4 time world champions.

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    Boy, am I late getting into this thread...........my nominee for "Most underrated skater" would be Petra Barna, who won the bronze Olympic medal in 92........he never had a triple axel that was consistent, but did land a quad in competition. He had a quiet elegance on the ice that reminded me very much of my all time fav, Paul Wylie. He tried to make his mark in pros, but never seemed to put out the goods when they counted........a wonderful stylist..........42

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    I agree with a previous poster. Krist Y., is figure skating Olympic Gold Medal personafied. She was/is grace and elegance and never appeared to disappoint. She skated to all kinds of music and had her very own style. I have always enjoyed her skating and she continued to keep her jump arsenal even when she turned pro. Thumbs up for KristiMom.

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    Originally posted by show 42
    Boy, am I late getting into this thread...........my nominee for "Most underrated skater" would be Petra Barna, who won the bronze Olympic medal in 92........he never had a triple axel that was consistent, but did land a quad in competition. He had a quiet elegance on the ice that reminded me very much of my all time fav, Paul Wylie. He tried to make his mark in pros, but never seemed to put out the goods when they counted........a wonderful stylist..........42
    !!!!!!!!! I must agree! I've seen his vids from soulseek, and i think he was the most interesting skater of the time in terms of men. I was listening though, and Hamilton made it sound like he would only win because most of the panel was Eastern Euro. I was like .

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    The most underrated skaters were Usova and Zhulin. They were an amazing team and they should have won '91 worlds and the '92 OGM. They should have never been placed behind the Duschenays.

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    most Underrated Skater is...?

    Not Emanuel and Fumie!!!! I guess we can remove their names from this category now.


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    B&K

    As for thier Riverdance olympic program, it is a non-diputed fact that the judges stated clearly that they WOULD NOT medal if they kept this program for competition.
    When did this occur? I loved their Riverdance program and they were so cheated of the bronze medal in 98. Their program was way more exciting and well performed than A/P. A/P's R&J was so boring I couldn't believe they edged out B&K.

    What was so controversial about B/K's Riverdance?

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    Boy, am I late getting into this thread...........my nominee for "Most underrated skater" would be Petra Barna, >>

    OMG! I LOVE Barna!! I had such a mad crush on him!! He just seemed like such a sweetie!

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