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    Thanks Doris. I will pay closer attention to that whole sequence. I'm also wondering about the first steps. There seems to be a wide latitude of ability there- as well as timing. Is that first step an indication of ability or just a matter of interpretation?

    No one in that group had wonderful timing - at least not to my count. On the other hand, when I really counted all the Olympic couples in 2002, I only found one that was really on the beat.

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    Love Meryls dress. Beautiful color and very simple, but elegant.

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    Good scores for B/A, i'm so excited for this competition!

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    Okay, someone who is watching, and who knows something about CDs, analysis: did Meryl and Charlie deserve to beat Tanith and Ben in the CD? Or has the USFSA dumped Tanith and Ben, believing Meryl and Charlie are now more likely to medal(if so, it'll end with them both off the podium. The scores way D&S are being treated at Europeans make that clear enough. All that will happen here is the judges will now have excuses enough to hold both teams down in Vancouver.)

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    Wow!

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    I'm sure Doris will explain Meryl and Chalie's marks. I noticed that her "atitude turns" were the smoothest of any that I saw. That's after Doris pointed out what to look for.

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    what?? really...D/W better in the CD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissIzzy View Post
    Okay, someone who is watching, and who knows something about CDs, analysis: did Meryl and Charlie deserve to beat Tanith and Ben in the CD? Or has the USFSA dumped Tanith and Ben, believing Meryl and Charlie are now more likely to medal(if so, it'll end with them both off the podium. The scores way D&S are being treated at Europeans make that clear enough. All that will happen here is the judges will now have excuses enough to hold both teams down in Vancouver.)
    They got B/A got 45 in the CDs. How is that dumping?

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    what are D/W scores?

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    Holy moly, the two competitions in ice dancing are going to be nailbiters: B/A v. D/W for gold and N/B v. S/B for bronze.

    I don't think there is any dumping. 1st & 2nd are virtually tied as are 3rd & 4th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by **Carol** View Post
    what?? really...D/W better in the CD?
    Really?! I was not expecting to hear that they were in 1st...of course I can't see anything but I totally expected it be B/A in the lead.

    Can't wait for dorispulaski's notes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by **Carol** View Post
    wjat are D/W scores?
    0.4 ahead of BA

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    1 Meryl Davis, Arctic FSC
    Charlie White, Detroit SC 45.42 22.79 22.63 9.11 9.07 9.04 8.96 0.00 #14
    2 Tanith Belbin, IceWorks SC
    Benjamin Agosto, IceWorks SC 45.02 22.60 22.42 9.00 8.86 8.96 9.07 0.00 #3
    3 Kimberly Navarro, Santa Rosa FSC
    Brent Bommentre, Philadelphia SC & HS 37.60 19.43 18.17 7.18 7.14 7.29 7.54 0.00 #15
    4 Emily Samuelson, Ann Arbor FSC
    Evan Bates, Ann Arbor FSC 37.36 19.23 18.13 7.21 7.21 7.32 7.29 0.00 #12
    5 Madison Hubbell, Ann Arbor FSC
    Keiffer Hubbell, Ann Arbor FSC 34.33 18.15 16.18 6.50 6.46 6.46 6.43 0.00 #6
    6 Madison Chock, All Year FSC
    Greg Zuerlein, Arctic FSC 34.12 17.53 16.59 6.54 6.61 6.64 6.79 0.00 #4
    7 Jane Summersett, Broadmoor SC
    Todd Gilles, Broadmoor SC 30.72 16.00 14.72 5.96 5.82 5.79 5.96 0.00 #8
    8 Trina Pratt, Broadmoor SC
    Chris Obzansky, Salt Lake Figure Skating 30.43 15.98 14.45 5.82 5.79 5.75 5.71 0.00 #13
    9 Lynn Kriengkrairut, All Year FSC
    Logan Giulietti-Schmitt, Ann Arbor FSC 30.00 15.91 14.09 5.64 5.61 5.57 5.71 0.00 #10
    10 Katie Wyble, Center Ice & Blades of Western PA
    Justin Morrow, All Year FSC 23.07 12.50 10.57 4.43 4.07 4.18 4.21 0.00 #9
    11 Stephanie Zastrow, St Paul FSC
    Michael Lueck, Burnsville-MN Valley FSC 22.58 12.63 9.95 4.25 3.57 4.04 4.11 0.00 #2
    12 Grace Cho, IceWorks SC
    Dmitry Ponomarev, IceWorks SC 22.39 12.00 10.39 4.36 3.96 4.00 4.29 0.00 #11
    13 Shannon Wingle, Arctic FSC
    Timothy McKernan, Broadmoor SC 21.75 11.31 11.44 4.71 4.46 4.36 4.75 1.00 #5
    14 Lauren Corry, Washington FSC
    Alexander Lorello, University of Delaware FSC 19.15 9.87 9.28 3.82 3.46 3.79 3.82 0.00 #7
    15 Elizabeth Chan, Skating Club of San Francisco Inc
    Jason Deveikis, Ann Arbor FSC 14.39 7.87 6.52 2.57 2.71 2.54 2.57 0.00 #1

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissIzzy View Post
    Okay, someone who is watching, and who knows something about CDs, analysis: did Meryl and Charlie deserve to beat Tanith and Ben in the CD? Or has the USFSA dumped Tanith and Ben, believing Meryl and Charlie are now more likely to medal(if so, it'll end with them both off the podium. The scores way D&S are being treated at Europeans make that clear enough. All that will happen here is the judges will now have excuses enough to hold both teams down in Vancouver.)
    It seems IMO that is the case. I've been wondering how much weight USFS would place on the GP events; it would appear a lot. They (like the other federations) want medals and the international marks indicate the the judges prefer to give any possible medal to D&W. Or at least the higher placement.

    Of course we have F&S in the mix now as well as they beat DomShabs in the OD at Euros. For the record I think F&S's OD win was deserved; IMHO they have excellent material this year and some feel they also get a boost from being Italian.

    I expected/expect D&W to have the edge in the OD with the final standing to be decided in the FD but B&A's Golden Waltz is quite good. I guess I should just congratulate D&W on winning their second national championship. I had been hoping for at least a good battle. I think B&A might still win the FD but after the OD it may not be enough.

    Time to turn my efforts to rooting for NavBoms in the battle for third.

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    Oh for crying out loud, the competition isn't over yet. And seriously, how did D/W do? Were they good? Did the deserve their marks? Were they just a bit better than B/A? Were they comparable? Would it be better if D/W were marked at 40+, so that we can claim D/W are being dumped? Does it really suck that the US has two great Ice Dance teams? What makes that so different from Russia?

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