2) I'm not saying Chan is representative of a whole federation, I think it's important not to confuse skaters and their federations. Like I said - and I believe I made it quite clear that I had no intention of sparking off a heated debate, that I just wanted to answer a question - I'm extremely surprised that Chan had a SECOND rant, after a first one that didn't necessarily do him any favours. It seems wierd how no-one from Skate Canada told him to be quite, that's all. I don't want this thread to go onto a debate on what happened last year - we've already done that. And I'm certainly not accusing Skate Canada of voodoo and God only knows what else - Brian's bronze medal was his own fault.:sheesh: I don't have a problem with skaters mouthing off - at least they're honest. I just don't appreciate it when federations slyly try to discredit other skaters. Skate Canada certainly isn't the only one to do so, like I said, but it's the one that's annoying me right now. Skate Canada probably wouldn't annoy me so much if on top of things they wrenet' the biggest advocates of the CoP.
I hope I made myself clearer.
Chan dragged Skate Canada in for his own needs. For this, I haven't forgiven him yet. Many people dislike Chan's big mouth. They somehow shifted the anger to Skate Canada, then to Canada. I find it funny. No one hated US because of USFSA or a certain skater. No one hated France because of French Federation. This whole Canada hating thing makes me sick.
I don't think Kurt wishes Brian ill and he has spoken positively about him; after NHK he said somewhere that he was happy to see Brian back in good form, and when Brian was injured he wished him well. I do wish they could have continued working together, I really enjoyed Kurt's programs for Brian. Maybe next year, after the pressure of the Olympics is over and all the patriotic stuff winds down.
I do have some issues with Skate Canada, most notably their ill-planned masculinity/no, we didn't mean it like that campaign, and encouraging Chan to make statements that were ugly and did him no favors - Jenny, I agree that Chan needs to tone it down, but I also got the sense some people were pushing him in that direction, which is extremely irresponsible. Still, I am hardly naive enough to think they're the only federation playing politiks; they simply happen to be better at it than most. I have nothing against Canada, Canadians, or Canadian skaters. I just dislike some Canadian skaters.
As for nightmare podiums, I refuse to play that game. I'll criticize skaters based on how they perform, not ahead of time.
Last edited by Buttercup; 02-01-2010 at 09:54 AM.
As for the rest of your post, I'll refer you to the end of Buttercup's last post, who expresses perfectly well what I'm trying to say. Concerning Kurt/Brian I've already expressed myself on that - there have been loads of rumors going around, but they seem pretty strange seeing the kind of gut Kurt is.
Last edited by jennylovskt; 02-01-2010 at 05:17 PM.
I tried to post before, but it didn't seem to go through.
This is what worries me the most: that the podium will be sort of pre-decided and that the favorites will win while skating badly, over clean skaters.
1. Yu-Na falls but wins because of her superior layback position (or something)
2. Carolina Kostner falls, but somehow gets enough points to come in 2nd.
3. Joannie Rochette also skates poorly but gets enough points to come in third
4. Rachael skates clean, lands triple triples, but it's decided her positions are ugly, so no medal for her
5. Mirai skates beautifully, brings the crowd to its feet, but after scrutinizing her program for 15 minutes ,they decide she must have underrotated, so no medal for her.
You could replace Carolina and Joannie with Mao Asada or anyone else, and it's the same.
Men: I want to see one of my home country-boys on the podium (Evan, Jeremy, or Johnny), but besides that, I think the judging is more fair. LOL about the Evan, Evegeny and Brian prediction, with one bragging and the others fuming!
Dance: Some team(s) that didn't compete in the Grand Prix bump off the favored Americans or Canadians. If this team or teams are really good, fine, but I can imagine some Russians getting favored because they have a classical style, that the judges like better than, say, Phantom of the Opera.
Pairs: Same as Dance, except it's the Chinese that would be bumped off.
I'm new here and been lurking on this board for a while. So I might as well post my nightmare podiums!
Pairs: S/Z not winning gold. Anything lower for them is failure.
Mens: G: Plushenko, S: Joubert, B: Weir
ID: Dom/Shabs medaling (even worse, winning it all), D/W and V/M not medaling
Ladies: G: Kostner, S: Lepisto, B: Flatt
What makes it much worse if everything is a splatfest!