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Thanks Miki!Originally Posted by MikiAndoFan#1
Welcome, ARipp42014!
Totally.L
Pairs: If Shen/Zhao don't win Gold.
Ice Dance: If it's not taken out of the medal events after this Olympics.
Chan's first really successful year was the 2008-2009 season, and at that point his criticism of the 'quadders' was targeted at some pretty distinguished company: Joubert, Plushenko, Lysacek and Lambiel. Among them, they have won 1 Olympic gold, 2 Olympic Silver, 7 World Championships, and 9 World silver and bronze medals. Chan, who at 19 has won just one World medal, would appear to be a journeyman presumptuously placing himself at the same level as a group of high elite skaters who have distinguished themselves multiple times at the World level. It's no wonder his brash statements have drawn fire. And IMO, Skate Canada has nothing to do with it. Chan just is too immature to know that sometimes it's best to keep one's thoughts to oneself.
My nightmares, in order of severity:
1) Blatant WUZROBBING. Regardless of who gets the short end of the stick.
2) Splatfest.
3) Boring, uninspiring OGM performances.
I love Chan's skating but ITA that he needs to learn some discretion in voicing his opinions. I thought SC told him off for it and sent him to media handling classes? He still hasn't learnt to shut up though. I wish he would.
Anyway, I agree with chuckm that a single skater isn't representative of the whole federation or nation. Would Joubert be representative of the FFSG? (AFAIK, DelSchoes are lovely and gracious people)
I never realized that SC was that good at gaming the system, so to speak. Frankly, I really don't mind, they're playing by the book and there's nothing I can fault them for.
It's not about whether they deserve the medal or not, that isn't what I'm trying to say. It's just that a s aspectator and skating fan, I see the OGM as the hight of a skater's career, so it's better if they win it after a certain amount of seasons - OGM shouldn't really be one of the first medals a skater wins, that's all. I'm not questioning the fact that Hughes and Lipinski deserved their medals, it's just that when one looks back a OGM history, people want to see skaters who they remember for more than one performance.I don't understand the bolded part of your statement at all. The Olympic motto is "Swifter, Higher, Stronger" and in skating the Olympics are (usually) about who skates the best on that night. So what if a new skater wins gold? They have trained and worked just as hard as the skaters who have been on the circuit for longer than them. Hughes and Lipinski deserved their medals - they didn't want to compete anymore, had injury problems, wanted to go to college, pursue other interests etc. so they left competitive skating. What is wrong with that?
I guess we will have to disagree because even though it may have been an early medal it still is the highlight of their career. I look at the Olympics is terms of performances rather than longeveity I guess. Sarah Hughes' look of disbelief and happiness after her long program and then her reaction to winning the gold are some of my favorite Olympic moments - and I'm saying this as a girl who grew up idolizing Michelle Kwan and who bawled at each of her Olympics.
Last edited by i love to skate; 02-02-2010 at 07:19 PM.
I agree with you and this "Joubert really deserves it" is not just unsporting but wrong. Joubert deserves what he can earn by the way he skates in Vancouver. If Patrick or anyone else outskates Joubert they deserve to be placed over him. There is nothing wrong with having sentimental favorites but this is supposed to be a real sport with real and fair competition.
As long as a skater is age eligible and a member of their Olympic team they have as much right as the older skaters to try and realize their dream.
Last edited by janetfan; 02-02-2010 at 09:24 AM.
ITA: it's about who does it on the day, not who has put in the most years. To keep the Olys from being a nightmare, I want the judges to judge what they see on the ice following the CoP whether fans agree w/ CoP or not. If they can do that, then the results will be 'fair' whether they are what we, as individuals, would want or not.I agree with you and this "Joubert really deserves it" is not just unsporting but wrong. Joubert deserves what he can earn by the way he skates in Vancouver. If Patrick or anyone else outskates Joubert hey deserve to be placed over him. There is nothing wrong with having sentimental favorites but this is supposed to be a real sport with real and fair competition.
As long as a skater is age eligible and a member of their Olympic team they have as much right as the older skaters to try and realize their dream.
I agree that whatever happens it's the highlight of their career. I do prefer it when people who have been heavyweights for several years win gold, but on the condition that their performance on the night is worth it. I'd rather see Patrick Chan win gold with an amazing performance than have a repeat of 2006 (ie: Plush wins gold but with as much artistry as a banana).
I totally agree here, it is a competition and not a coronation, and I know many people had said that last olympic mens competition was a coronation, at least plush and his banana artistry (what else I will read here about Plush, lol) won it fair and square and the guys made it too easy for him. I would not enjoy a men olympic champion though with the jumping content of lepisto's fs, as much artistry as he has, which is always subjective. Thats why there is the competition first place.
Well put although I'd probably reverse #2 and #3. I'd rather have a great skate with splat than a dull skate without it.
Whatever I think of specific skaters, I really dislike the idea of labelling anyone as a "nightmare" medalist.
my nightmare podium could be in women the OGM other girl that is not Mao, Yuna or Joannie, and the worst if it is for Rachel.
Men OGM Evan:sheesh: and silver Jhonny, noooo please.
Pairs OGM is not for Xhen Shao, the worst would be OGM for Mukortova
Dance I dont like it.
This is not a podium nightmare, but I'd hate to see Brian finish 4th. I don't think he could handle it. And I shudder to think what the reaction of the French federation would be to that finish.
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