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    Quote Originally Posted by demarinis5 View Post
    [url]http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100129&content_id=7993754&vkey=i ce_news[/url]

    IN Article on Ladies podium finishers. Nice quote from Caroline. I hope it comes true.
    "I want to stay injury-free and make sure that I can come out as a new Caroline next year."

    I'm happy to see that shes keeping a positive outlook on things.
    Congrats Caroline!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itcaip View Post
    yes, me too.... and if she had the feeling the landing wasn't perfect and left it out for that reason why didn't she tack it onto to the 3L, 3T or 2A in the end??? i don't know if someone has ever told her that she can play around a little with the combos if the planned ones didn't happen.... in the olympics she needs every single point on the technical side to compensate the gap between her and yuna kim's component score... that means she needs 3 combinations without a doubt

    i am always sorry for mao because even if she skates like today she isn't really happy when she finishes the pogram because she fears the marks and all the downgrades... and 126 points for a clean long program with two 3A is like the judges wanna say " in your face mao"
    Well 126 its not bad if we considered that mao asada lost point on her 3a2t and also didint make a third combination, probably she wasnt happy because of her pcs, even so with a clean program she didnt even reach 60's which i probably think its because the judges though she was very inconsistent whole season :S
    but i dont understand whats going on with Akiko's marks!, is she really bad on the artistic side that she is still having 52?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscariot View Post
    even so with a clean program she didnt even reach 60's which i probably think its because the judges though she was very inconsistent whole season :S
    haha nice one... then kostner and lepisto shoud score in the mid forties when they take consistency into consideration ( no offense, i like kostner and lepisto by the way)

    of course 126 is a good score.. but the program she skated was almost perfect, this is what bothers me... high levels on everything and only one downgraded 2T and no third combination ( which is not a mistake).. considering that she once scored 130+ with more obvious mistakes i imagine this is kind of frustrating.. to know you have practically done all you can but still receive conservative marks for it... well blablablah, at least she knows she can do it now and i hope that brings back her confidence

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    I think it's pretty hard to pull off a program like "Bells". I think the only skater who can probably pull off a program like this to great effect is Plushenko. When I was watching her LP, I was really impressed by the technical elements of the programs but the music was still distracting and depressing. So I can understand why the judges gave her a lower PCS score than she probably deserved for a clean skate. As much as I am irritated by Plusenko's diva-ness, I think Mao really needs to show a little diva attitude in her LP.

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    Anyone have Caroline's LP from 4CC? I can't seem to find her SP either. =(

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    I don't think you can generalize PCS marks from competition to competition. You should be able to, but you can't, because judges are incompetent and inconsistent. If Mao skated like this at the Olympics and got similar tech calls (i.e. nothing downgraded except a 2t), while her closest rivals skated the kind of stumbly skates many of them have been doing this season, I think the judges would lavish her with PCS. So what we should pay attention is the rather significant fact that Mao got a higher TES in the LP here than Yu Na did at TEB. This may even be the highest LP TES of a lady skater in international competition this season. TES are more comparable between competitions, and it's an encouraging sign for Mao.

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    I kind of agree with Miki88. While I'm happy to see Mao at full strength technically again, I'm not all that keen on her efforts to interpret the music. She looks as if she is losing her mind - all the head-holding and head-twisting and open mouth angst like Munch's The Scream. It's a little too much like Schultheiss's straitjacket program. For the Olympics I'd rather see a somber diva than somebody out of a mental institution. Say, Tamara Toumanova:
    [url]http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cc/Tamara_Toumanova.jpg/180px-Tamara_Toumanova.jpg&imgrefurl=http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamara_Toumanova&usg=__P-uyQhgEhieZkH4aJWX_2y5snGQ=&h=238&w=180&sz=8&hl=en& start=70&sig2=502uy9kki6fsOK5jMNeeDA&um=1&tbnid=mP Z9Npc4P71MRM:&tbnh=109&tbnw=82&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtamara%2Btoumanova%26ndsp%3D20%26hl%3 Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN%26start%3D60%26um%3D1&ei=y2dj S4rUMNz5lAfL-eDQAw[/url]
    [url]http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BNTUxNTMwNzg3N15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNTk5MDU2._V1._ SX304_SY400_.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.imdb.com/rg/play/thumbnail/media/rm1984665600/nm0869565&usg=__slugKcuT2hWavqOPLsJ6l2cPBqA=&h=400 &w=304&sz=17&hl=en&start=5&sig2=Tn6z-n2VOX5TC_z4-H7thg&um=1&tbnid=WnCK2hFfAnjCjM:&tbnh=124&tbnw=94& prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtamara%2Btoumanova%26ndsp%3D20%26hl%3 Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1&ei=dGdjS_TuMY-BlgfY8v39Aw[/url]
    Not Angelina Jolie/Girl Interrupted:
    [url]http://screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/girl-interrupted1.jpg[/url]

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    Well I just spent an enjoyable half hour watching Mao's FS here: [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTSCiEB6vxo"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTSCiEB6vxo[/URL]!

    I studied each jump frame by frame by frame, and my conclusion is that both 3Axels were textbook perfect, as well as her other jumps, except the second 3F jump in combination looked to be a tad short, could have gone either way, totally up to the judges & tech. panel on that one. Also, the 2T of the 3A/2T combo. was definitely underrotated by about 130 degrees, not 180, nor 90, but in between. So it looks like she got credited with 6 triple jumps!

    This is Mao's 3rd personal best free skating score, as I have a notebook of all her scores, so she looks right on target. The only other two times where she scored higher she did 7 triple jumps, as follows:

    1.) 2007 WORLDS -- steps into 3A, 2A/3T(UR), 3F/3R, 2A, 3L, 3F, 3L/2R/2R = 133.13 *7 triple jumps*

    2.) 2008 4CC -- 3A(best ever!), 3F/3T(UR), 3L, 3R, 3F/3R(UR), glide into 2A/2R/2R, end of program 2A! = 132.31 *7 triple jumps*

    3.) 2010 4CC -- 3A, 3A/2T(UR), 3F, 3R, 3F/2R/2R, 3T, 2A = 126.74 *6 triple jumps*

    4.) 2009 WTT -- 3A, 3A(UR)/2T, 3F/2R/2R, 3R, 3F/2R, 3T-steps into-2A sequence = 126.03 *6 triple jumps*


    [COLOR="blue"]GOOOOOOO[/COLOR] [COLOR="magenta"]MAO[/COLOR][COLOR="yellow"]-[/COLOR][COLOR="lime"]CHAN[/COLOR][COLOR="cyan"]!!!![/COLOR] [COLOR="darkorchid"]ARIGATO!!!![/COLOR]


    EDITED TO ADD: forgot to say that I would love to see Mao dressed up like a Kabuki Dancer, yes, I mean Kabuki Dancer! She definitely means more OOMPH! And along with that she needs a complete makeover, including costume & makeup, like Michelle Kwan totally transformed herself with her masterpiece Salome program. Mao needs the same. Come on, Mao, you can do it!!!!

    Also, 7 triple jumps will put you over the top, and no one can touch you at that point, no one!!!!
    Last edited by Nadine; 01-29-2010 at 06:56 PM. Reason: trying to fix colors, lol, and added info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadine View Post
    Well I just spent an enjoyable half hour watching Mao's FS here: [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTSCiEB6vxo"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTSCiEB6vxo[/URL]!

    I studied each jump frame by frame by frame, and my conclusion is that both 3Axels were textbook perfect, as well as her other jumps, except the second 3F jump in combination looked to be a tad short, could have gone either way, totally up to the judges & tech. panel on that one. Also, the 2T of the 3A/2T combo. was definitely underrotated by about 130 degrees, not 180, nor 90, but in between. So it looks like she got credited with 6 triple jumps!

    This is Mao's 3rd personal best free skating score, as I have a notebook of all her scores, so she looks right on target. The only other two times where she scored higher she did 7 triple jumps, as follows:

    1.) 2007 WORLDS -- steps into 3A, 2A/3T(UR), 3F/3R, 2A, 3L, 3F, 3L/2R/2R = 133.13 *7 triple jumps*

    2.) 2008 4CC -- 3A(best ever!), 3F/3T(UR), 3L, 3R, 3F/3R(UR), glide into 2A/2R/2R, end of program 2A! = 132.31 *7 triple jumps*

    3.) 2010 4CC -- 3A, 3A/2T(UR), 3F, 3R, 3F/2R/2R, 3T, 2A = 126.74 *6 triple jumps*

    4.) 2009 WTT -- 3A, 3A(UR)/2T, 3F/2R/2R, 3R, 3F/2R, 3T-steps into-2A sequence = 126.03 *6 triple jumps*
    Hmm, good post Nadine ...... now I am looking at Mao's lp with new eyes....I guess I was just a little disappointed that Mao didnt score in the 130's like I am sure that she wanted to. However I cant help but feel that if she kept her choreography as it was in TEB, Mao's PCS scores would have been higher and she would have been closer to her goal of getting in the 130s.

    Mao's Lp at TEB:
    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfR6GWq0ydI[/url]

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    1.) 2007 WORLDS -- steps into 3A, 2A/3T(UR), 3F/3R, 2A, 3L, 3F, 3L/2R/2R = 133.13 *7 triple jumps*
    Funny. As I recall from her 2007 Worlds LP performance, she noticeably 2 footed her triple axel. Yet, it seems she wasn't hit with any penalties since 133 is a relatively high score for that performance, where she also UR a combination.
    Last edited by Figure88; 01-29-2010 at 07:07 PM.

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    You're talking to a big Mao Asada Fan, here's that incredible 2007 Worlds FS (her blade skimmed the ice, but no 2foot): [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ8LXKlFjUI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ8LXKlFjUI[/URL]


    I want/hope/pray for Mao to do well (as well as the other ladies, make it one for the ages)! As I've stated before, I will NEVER give up on Mao, I'm a lifelong fan, not a fairweather one, nor one that sits on the fence, I'm in ALL the way, lol, both the ups & the downs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadine View Post
    You're talking to a big Mao Asada Fan, here's that incredible 2007 Worlds FS (her blade skimmed the ice, but no 2foot): [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ8LXKlFjUI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ8LXKlFjUI[/URL]
    That was a two footed landing...her left pick is in the ice while her right foot is landing. You can see it clear as day on the slo-mos.

    ETA: What a great skate from Myriane!! I am looking forward to seeing her next year
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadine View Post
    You're talking to a big Mao Asada Fan, here's that incredible 2007 Worlds FS (her blade skimmed the ice, but no 2foot): [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ8LXKlFjUI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ8LXKlFjUI[/URL]


    I want/hope/pray for Mao to do well (as well as the other ladies, make it one for the ages)! As I've stated before, I will NEVER give up on Mao, I'm a lifelong fan, not a fairweather one, nor one that sits on the fence, I'm in ALL the way, lol, both the ups & the downs.
    I don't really follow Mao, so I don't know what the circumstances were for this particular competition. I think it was Peggy who it mentioned in her ESPN commentary:

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5G3Ns2i86U[/url]

    Mao has 2-footed her 3A at other times. Another performance was the 2007 GPF. Paul Wylie mentioned it during the slo-mo of her jumps:

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYJ_mG6Qvno[/url]
    Last edited by Figure88; 01-29-2010 at 07:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Figure88 View Post
    Funny. As I recall from her 2007 Worlds LP performance, she noticeably 2 footed her triple axel. Yet, it seems she wasn't hit with any penalties since 133 is a relatively high score for that performance, where she also UR a combination.
    Yes she did get -GOE on it as I recall but it wad considered a triple and rightly so. Her triple toe in combonation with the double Axel was downgraded, but she did have a clean 3/3 and a 3/2/2 in the second half of the program.

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    Hey Nadine, thanks for the post, but I think you missed some scores from her GP events.


    2007-2008 GPF 132.55
    2006 Grand Prix NHK Trophy 130.02

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