Dunno about the LP but Irina would've had such a big lead over Michelle (well she should've under 6.0 anyway) after Salt Lake SP with higher TES, SS and transitions.
COP --> 6.0
2009 Worlds- Miki silver (no UR on 3/3 in short)
2008 Worlds- Yu-Na silver, Nakano bronze
2006 Torino- Fumie bronze
6.0 --> COP
2002 Salt Lake- Honda bronze Goebel out (Takeshi would've received much much higher PCS no?)
1998 Nagano - No medal for Lu Chen
1994 Lillehammer - Nancy gold (And I do think she's robotic)
1994 Lillehammer- Gordeeva & Grinkov silver with less difficult SBS and the mistakes? Dunno... then again they would've got higher PCS.
Is this the program you're thinking of?
I never heard it referred to as Joan of Arc. They made a number of different statements of what the program was about, so they might have said Joan of Arc at some point.
IIRC they did fall in that program the first time they skated it at a fall competition -- Lalique?
As you see in the link, no visible errors at the Olympics.
I highly doubt the programs would've been structured the same for these skaters if they were under COP rather than 6.0 Just sayin.
Interesting idea for a thread!
For me, Midori Ito instantly comes to mind. She was SO technically advanced for her time that they just didn't know what to do with her. At the '88 Games, she did every kind of triple (except the axel, which she'd of course be the first one to do later), including a triple-triple combination. Katarina Witt won the gold with an artistically beautiful program, but she landed only two kinds of triples (two triple toes and two triple salchows; she doubled the triple loop). Personally, under ANY system, I thought Midori should've won a medal, especially considering that she did a clean short program as well with the hardest combination (double loop-triple loop) out of the top skaters. (Personally, I would've had the medalists in this order: Manley-Ito-Witt.)
Also, I'm not so sure Lu Chen wouldn't have won the bronze in Nagano. She had problems with some triples, but I seem to recall EVERYONE did, aside from Tara and Michelle. I'm pretty sure Maria Butyrskaiya was fourth, but while she stayed on her feet, just about all of her landings were shaky and would've gotten negative GOEs. And, as we all know, Lu Chen was artistically superb that night and would've gotten great component marks.
And yes, like others have said, there's no way Oksana would've beaten Nancy (or Lu Chen, as a matter of fact) that one year.
Here is an excerpt from an old NY times article:
"One exception was Midori Ito of Japan, who had skated earlier because of her typically low ranking -10th - after the compulsories.
But her short program was virtually without error, with the high, crisp jumps for which she is best known. Winning 5.7's and 5.8's for technical merit and a range of 5.5 to 5.8 for presentation, she jumped two places into eighth. Those were unusually high marks for one skating in her position, 17th."
Ito deserved to EASILY win both the SP and LP in 1988. That she didn't is one of the biggest crimes the sport has seen. It was literally miles ahead of everyone else.
I think this is too hard to say because the skaters now have CoP-friendly programs. How many Bielmann's did we see before CoP? Or changes of edge on spins?
The one skater that comes to mind for me would be Elvis Stojko. Despite his spectacular jumps, he would have been crushed in a CoP situation because the spins were weak and basic & transitions were basically non-existent.
Depends how willing he would have been to adapt. Stojko did tend to have fast spins, so at least he could have gotten positive GOEs except wher he needed to hold a camel position. Wasn't built for the flexibility features but given the incentive he could have developed enough other features to get at least level 2 and 3 if not 4.The one skater that comes to mind for me would be Elvis Stojko. Despite his spectacular jumps, he would have been crushed in a CoP situation because the spins were weak and basic & transitions were basically non-existent.
Some of his programs had more transitions than others. So again, would he have been willing to push even further in that direction or would he prefer to focus on racking up TES points.