Yeah, but I don't live in that universe in which Chan is the evilest.
I dont care whether patric thinks transitions are better than quads or not
WE FIGURE SKATIG FAN lOVE WATCHING QUADS, WHICH makes a skater special.
I am not one of them, but it doesn't make or break it for me. honestly I'd rather have a quad flow in the program ala Ryan Bradley's two quads at nationals than the ones that are just put in because they can do them and that's all they've got (ala Plushenko)
http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/sho...highlight=quad ) there are other threads where teh main subject was not the quad and it's likability that people voiced their opinions/concerns as well... do a search if you're interested.
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Chan and Slipchuk do some damage control. Actually, the latter has become most diplomatic lately, even admitting that there are always different cultural biases in evaluating skating (including NA bias). Chan needs to work some more on his diplomacy skills... This sounds nice:
This is funny:"I won’t do the quad in the program, but I will do it in practice," he said. "So I don’t feel so much out of place."
Ah yes, Plushy at his advanced age!"I didn’t call him old. I just said he’s in a different era as me. I’m much younger as a skater. But he’s still a very good skater for his age.
Slipchuk gets his skating history wrong:
Actually, it was late 1990s for Plushenko, and no later than 2002 for Brian.With Joubert and Plushenko, they’ve been doing quads at the world level since 2004," said Skate Canada director of high performance Mike Slipchuk. "Well, 2002, earlier for Plushenko
And added this:
Chan is not an unusually good spinner compared to others in the field and he's not the only guy to have gotten level 4 on footwork."(Chan's) a very strong technical skater. He may not do a quad but he makes a lot of points up on footwork and spins and that, that other people might not.
Again, IMO he doesn't have an edge on the entire field in any of these areas.It’s not only about the quad," Chan said. "You don’t win automatically with it. You have the rest of the program which is where I come in, the footwork, the transitions, interpretation, is what helps me. I love the new system. It’s a great way to promote an all-around skater. Especially a skater like me."
But Lambiel gets it right:
"I don’t care about the others. I just care about my job. And I just want to do my performance. With quad or no quad, that’s not the most important. The performance, that’s what is important here at the Olympic Games. It’s not about the quad or a jump, it’s the performance in general."
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I don't have a problem with Patrick speaking his mind - although I do have a problem with Mr inman's behaviour (though I doubt he's the only one).
Concerning what Patrick said:
"For me the transitions are one of the most important things in a programme, otherwise it's very boring to watch,"
I don't agree. Transitions can be part of making a program interesting, but I've seen loads of interesting programs without transitions.
"I love the new system, it's a great way to promote an all around skater especially a skater like me,"
I only partly agree. I've got the feeling that this system priviledges people with footwork and spins, but not so much with jumps. Under the current system (though it is early) I think it's harder for Stéphane Lambiel-like skaters too emmerge.
On the last part - I admire his honesty.
"He's (Plushenko) confident that the quad will really help him, that he doesn't need transitions. He's old, I can't tell him it's not good.
One doesn't need transitions if the program is very good - Plushenko's programs this year are dull.
"I think we'll start seeing more skaters like me in future generations."
Great! Can't wait to see the scene!
Last edited by jessica1018; 02-12-2010 at 05:16 AM.
Okay, I don't want to hate on Chan...well, only a bit. But what is his problem? He's not a complete skater either! As long as he doesn't have a reliable triple axel, no quad etc. he's deficient in the jumping part of figure skating. And the jumps are a part of figure skating, an important one at that.
And Plushenko has better jumps (that cover more ice, are more powerful etc.), IMO better presence on the ice and excellent skating skills. So of course he should get high PCS in these areas. And he is getting docked for Transitions, Choreography etc. this season. Frankly, this just seems like Chan is scared to death that Plushenko will wipe the floor with him and lashes out to cover his anxiety.
Plushenko has spoken about Urmanov with the best words I ve seen him talk for an ex skater. And Urmy also. Dont find drama where is not. There is 1000 articles per day in russian press about Plushenko, yellow articles, purple, green, all colours. I m surprised this is all there is of quotes for him to be concidered the evil.
So far from the quotes I see Plush attacking on flies, not skaters
Last edited by seniorita; 02-12-2010 at 04:55 AM.
Ok I think journalists are really evil , I mean he cant have said this. Although it is funny, this olympic drama is really fun!
The most obvious was that Plush stayed and watched cause he was skating after him and he has never seen him in competitions, maybe???Chan suggested that the pressure may be actually getting to one of his biggest rival, defending Olympic men’s singles champion Evgeni Plushenko, who watched Chan’s practice from the stands.
“It showed that he’s really scared of what I do,” said the 19-year-old skater.
Chinese pais watched evgeni's practice, they are scared also he will jump to pairs competition?
Or maybe he was trying to psych out Chan? Or he was bored? Waiting for someone? What can Patrick Chan possibly do to scare Evgeny Plushenko? Really, if he said that, he's trying to mess with the wrong guy.