Men Practice Reports

[Alatariel]

Abbott

[silverlake22]

Abbott

I thought he only did a quad in the LP? At nationals he did 3f-3t in the SP

[Tinymavy15]

Who IS going to attempt a quad in the SP then?
Plushenko, Joubert, Lambiel, Verner.....is that it?

Abbott won't try a quad in the SP. He doesn't do the quad in combination.

Plushenko, Joubert, Lambiel, Verner all will. I think that is it.

[MK's Winter]

ego points? I don't know!

I'll bet my Swan for your Zebra!

[Alatariel]

I thought he only did a quad in the LP? At nationals he did 3f-3t in the SP

Oh sorry my bad, I am semi-asleep, I thought you meant in either of the two!

[Tonichelle]

I'll bet my Swan for your Zebra!

[inskate]

Some v.short practice clips:

Nobu - 4T-3T-3L, Takahiko - 4T, Plush - 4T-3T, Nobu 4T:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csyKi30cdS4

Nobu 4-3 and 4-3-3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1Fc1fVAdBo

[jcoates]

If you do a 3A in the combo, the solo Axel has to be a double.

You can do a quad out of steps. Goebel did one in 02, Yagudin did it before it was allowed as part of the jump combo, Elvis did them....

Goebel did a 4s-3t in the SP in SLC along with 3a and 3f.

In the 99- 2000 season, there were some top guys doing solo quads in the SP plus 3a-3t or 2t and a 2a, usually Yagudin and Plushenko, sometimes Weiss, Goebel and Li.

Yagudin 2000 Worlds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyoSJKjZums

Weiss 2000 Worlds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tCw7H1WPi4

Goebel 2000 Worlds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHXJSMaa3S4

Following 2000 Worlds, quad combos were allowed in the SP. This was the standard for the top guys for the next few years while the Russians were dominant.

Yagudin 2001 Worlds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og59Q...eature=related

Other guys were doing the 3a, 3-3 and solo triple layout most of the time throughout that cycle and in fact up to today. Interestingly, Yagudin and Plushenko both did the old 3a-3t, 3z, 2a layout in the 98-99 season when they could have done another triple.

Yagudin 1999 Worlds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaRu4vWzfhY

Plushenko 1999 Worlds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jwDFjxfgq4

After the 88 Olympics, there were a couple of years when the 3a was allowed to be repeated in the SP. The ISU had just allowed the solo jump to be a triple instead of a double. (A real explosion of technical difficulty after years of seeing mandatory double flips or double loops as the solo jump) So folks like Browning, Petrenko, and Eldredge ran with the new freedom and were doing 3a-3t or 2t or 2 lp, 3a from steps and 2a. For obvious reasons, the ISU thought too many axels were being done and required the solo jump to be of a different type. That led to the longtime layout of (usually) 3a-3t or 2t, solo triple (usually lutz) and a 2a.

Browning 1989 Worlds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVDn8QfoLSw

Petrenko 1990 Worlds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QimoBJwAdbE

Eldredge 1990 Worlds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxxMq12UNKo

So in reality, there was a two year stretch (88-90) when the SP was actually more difficult than the rest of the decade until 1998-1999.

[Tinymavy15]

Some v.short practice clips:

Nobu - 4T-3T-3L, Takahiko - 4T, Plush - 4T-3T, Nobu 4T:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csyKi30cdS4

Nobu 4-3 and 4-3-3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1Fc1fVAdBo

Okay, Nobu's 4/3/3 is too good to be true. He has to try this in competition one day. How about Thursday?

Watch Plushy in the 1st video at :32 for a "transition."

[Trewyn]

Okay, Nobu's 4/3/3 is too good to be true. He has to try this in competition one day. How about Thursday?

I second that :D His landings are amazing! At least do a solo quad, Nobu!

[alex1]

Ok I see you have that Nobu's 4-3-3 video posted here already...

Here is another video of just Plushy practicing on olympic ice:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEVjaEKgEe4

[kiz_4Ever]

could also fernandez try a quad in the SP? and why not oda since he has been so consistent in practice this days?

So surely in SP are plushenko, joubert, verner, lambiel.

[Trewyn]

http://web.icenetwork.com/index.jsp Article about Chan saying the injury and axel problems are a thing of the past. He also says he initially planned to retire after this season; what the? He's so young!! Look at Plushy; Chan could go on untile the games of 2018; he hasn't won anything really significant (like GPF, Worlds) so unless he wins here, that would seem like a really weird decision.

[Alatariel]

Okay, Nobu's 4/3/3 is too good to be true. He has to try this in competition one day. How about Thursday?

Watch Plushy in the 1st video at :32 for a "transition."

I think that was pure improv.

Anyway, how tall is Nobu? He seems to ... tiny.

[Trewyn]

Belgian article about Van der Perren: says he suffers from nerves a bit, especially for the SP and hopes for a top 10 (ideally top 6) placement. Says he's not going to play safe and go for everything and hopes to continue at least next season and maybe until the 2012 Europeans. After their carreers he and Jenna want kids :D. I hope he'll skate his best! Not sure if he's going for a quad; the article didn't mention. I hope he at least does his triple-triple-triple and nails his triple axels!!!!