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Technical Panel Disclosed

HCOSurfer

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Dunno about Sissy Krick, but I do know that the entire technical panel for the ladies is basically the same as the one from the GPF (you know, the one that downgraded Kim's 3-3 combo). I have a feeling that this isn't gonna be pretty folks.
 

Tesla

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Dec 28, 2005
Dunno about Sissy Krick, but I do know that the entire technical panel for the ladies is basically the same as the one from the GPF (you know, the one that downgraded Kim's 3-3 combo). I have a feeling that this isn't gonna be pretty folks.

What? The messageboards or the Olympics?
 

DesertRoad

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Oct 31, 2005
Dunno about Sissy Krick, but I do know that the entire technical panel for the ladies is basically the same as the one from the GPF (you know, the one that downgraded Kim's 3-3 combo). I have a feeling that this isn't gonna be pretty folks.

That downgrade was ridiculous. If they try the same crap at the Olympics, I won't begrudge the fans for going crazy on the panel.
 
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So, what is Sissy Krick infamous for?

She voted for the Canadians Sale and Pelletiere over Berezhnaya and Sikharudlisze in 2002, so she will probably favor Patrick Chan over Evgeni Plushenko this time around. ;)
 

miki88

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They are using the same tech from the GP for the ladies? I can just see the controversy now~~~~~
 

doug_log

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Dec 5, 2004
But Kim's 3-3 WAS underrotated. I'm a huge Kim fan and think she will/deserves to win the OGM, but the techs have been kind to her re: rotation calls. I was happy to see that call at the GPF.
 

DesertRoad

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If claiming you're a huge fan of hers validates your technical call, then let me say I'm not a huge Kim fan, and that 3/3 was not under-rotated.
 

doug_log

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If claiming you're a huge fan of hers validates your technical call, then let me say I'm not a huge Kim fan, and that 3/3 was not under-rotated.

Not really. I just prefaced it with that to guard myself from any Mao-bot accusations.
 

miki88

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Not really. I just prefaced it with that to guard myself from any Mao-bot accusations.

:confused: So do believe it was justified or not? I don't think it really matters if it is or not on that night, because since it's that judge again, if she downgrades her 3-3, there will be complaining.
 

doug_log

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:confused: So do believe it was justified or not? I don't think it really matters if it is or not on that night, because since it's that judge again, if she downgrades her 3-3, there will be complaining.

Yes, I believe it was justified. But, you're right. If she's downgraded, there'll be a huge uproar. But the new rules that prevent the judges from seeing the techs' downgrade should keep the scores from changing too much (unless it's a blatant downgrade). I guess that's the most important thing.
 

DesertRoad

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Oct 31, 2005
I take it back. I just downloaded her SP and rewatched it. It does appear she landed forward on her 3toe, thus justifying the downgrade.

Well, it's up to Yu Na and all the other athletes to land their jumps, and the tech panel to call it correctly. Let's hope one follows the other.
 

blue dog

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Katalin Alpern is on the technical panel for dance. ACK!
 

Blades of Passion

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But Kim's 3-3 WAS underrotated. I'm a huge Kim fan and think she will/deserves to win the OGM, but the techs have been kind to her re: rotation calls. I was happy to see that call at the GPF.

If Kim was attempting a Quadruple Toeloop as the second jump of her 3-3 then, yes, it was underrotated.

I'm pretty sure she was just going for a Triple Toe, though. In which case it was excellent and one of the worst calls EVER by a tech specialist.

Her 2Axel-3Toe in the LP was actually underrotated (likely because of nerves after the way she was robbed in the SP).
 

seniorita

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She voted for the Canadians Sale and Pelletiere over Berezhnaya and Sikharudlisze in 2002, so she will probably favor Patrick Chan over Evgeni Plushenko this time around. ;)

Or maybe Plushy will send her a kiss while Tango and she will change her mind:p
 

DesertRoad

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Oct 31, 2005
If Kim was attempting a Quadruple Toeloop as the second jump of her 3-3 then, yes, it was underrotated.

I'm pretty sure she was just going for a Triple Toe, though. In which case it was excellent and one of the worst calls EVER by a tech specialist.

I didn't think it was underrotated, but when I refreshed my memory by rewatching the SP, and went through it frame by frame, it was clear she touched down with her skate while she was mostly forward, and clearly more than 90° short of full rotation. This is not how she normally lands the jump, and should she regain her form at the Olympics, I hope she is judged fairly.

But on the other hand, I do think the point penalty for downgrades is ridiculous, although this applies far more often to Yu Na's competitors. If it was up to me, there'd be no more downgrades until the point system is fixed in this regard.
 
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