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    Katalin Alpern is on the technical panel for dance. ACK!

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    Quote Originally Posted by doug_log View Post
    But Kim's 3-3 WAS underrotated. I'm a huge Kim fan and think she will/deserves to win the OGM, but the techs have been kind to her re: rotation calls. I was happy to see that call at the GPF.
    If Kim was attempting a Quadruple Toeloop as the second jump of her 3-3 then, yes, it was underrotated.

    I'm pretty sure she was just going for a Triple Toe, though. In which case it was excellent and one of the worst calls EVER by a tech specialist.

    Her 2Axel-3Toe in the LP was actually underrotated (likely because of nerves after the way she was robbed in the SP).

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    I say ACK! re ; Alpern , too but do you think that Marika H-B might be a bit of a tempering factor ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    She voted for the Canadians Sale and Pelletiere over Berezhnaya and Sikharudlisze in 2002, so she will probably favor Patrick Chan over Evgeni Plushenko this time around.
    Or maybe Plushy will send her a kiss while Tango and she will change her mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blades of Passion View Post
    If Kim was attempting a Quadruple Toeloop as the second jump of her 3-3 then, yes, it was underrotated.

    I'm pretty sure she was just going for a Triple Toe, though. In which case it was excellent and one of the worst calls EVER by a tech specialist.
    I didn't think it was underrotated, but when I refreshed my memory by rewatching the SP, and went through it frame by frame, it was clear she touched down with her skate while she was mostly forward, and clearly more than 90° short of full rotation. This is not how she normally lands the jump, and should she regain her form at the Olympics, I hope she is judged fairly.

    But on the other hand, I do think the point penalty for downgrades is ridiculous, although this applies far more often to Yu Na's competitors. If it was up to me, there'd be no more downgrades until the point system is fixed in this regard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seniorita View Post
    Or maybe Plushy will send her a kiss while Tango and she will change her mind
    ... or she will puke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJohn View Post
    ... or she will puke.
    i hope she doesnt miss the levels in that case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seniorita View Post
    i hope she doesnt miss the levels in that case.
    Yeah. The low transition levels that is.

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    Ladies single event is turning out to be a hell of a battle.
    Yuna Kim vs. team of Myriam LORIOL-OBERWILER, Zuzana ZACKOVA and Junko Hiramatsu
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    I believe some of the complaints about with her 3-3 DG at GPF was not only because of the fact that it was DG but also because of the fact that other ladies' jumps were ratified when some of them were even less rotated than Kim's 3T.

    And I doubt techs would make such ridiculous DG calls again since this IS the Olympics; another scandal, figure skating might be gone forever from the Olympics. Media has already noticed this issue and it won't be so pretty if such thing happens again.

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    Technical Specialist- LORIOL-OBERWILER Myriam ?

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    Disastrous

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    If her jumps was UR,,,,,,,,, what a ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertRoad View Post
    I didn't think it was underrotated, but when I refreshed my memory by rewatching the SP, and went through it frame by frame, it was clear she touched down with her skate while she was mostly forward, and clearly more than 90° short of full rotation. This is not how she normally lands the jump, and should she regain her form at the Olympics, I hope she is judged fairly.
    I see you're talking about "forward" based on the moment her toe pick hit the ice , but it's actually the rotation of the BLADE that is counted underrotation, and there are clearly PLENTY of other cases like that execution ratified as a full triple. Kim rotated a BEAUTIFUL triple toe loop that was underrotated by less than a quarter turn on the ice.

    I hope Kim won't get too nervous at the presence of the woman. She better bring her perfect without a doubt in order to avoid misjudgement.

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    I don't know what the implications would be in the fact that Sissy Krick was one of the team who created the ISU seminar videos that has been on the news lately regarding Plushenko appearance in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EyesOfLove View Post
    I see you're talking about "forward" based on the moment her toe pick hit the ice , but it's actually the rotation of the BLADE that is counted underrotation, and there are clearly PLENTY of other cases like that execution ratified as a full triple. Kim rotated a BEAUTIFUL triple toe loop that was underrotated by less than a quarter turn on the ice.

    I hope Kim won't get too nervous at the presence of the woman. She better bring her perfect without a doubt in order to avoid misjudgement.
    If that's what count as an underrotation, and I would have no problem with that, then there have been countless misscalled URs that affected many rankings. This is a horribly flawed part of the system and it's awful that it's not fixed before these life-changing games. I hope the tech specialists err on the side of the skater's intention, since a downgrade is so costly in points.

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