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    Groups for Start Orders (Mens/Ladies)

    Since these Olympic short program warm-up groups are based on world standings, I would assume that the mens and ladies competitions will be the 5-5-5-5-5-5 groups, and the following skaters would be in the first and second halves based on their current world rankings (and correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the final two groups (= 10 skaters), are the 10 highest skaters in the standings.)

    Ladies, First Half: McCorkell, Phaneuf, Reitmayerova, Nagasu, Makarova, Karademir, Lafuente, Liu, Kwak, Postic, Ziegler, Gimazetdinova, Lee, Jurkiewicz, Pieman

    Ladies, Warm-Up Group 4: Korpi, Gedevanishvili, Glebova, Meier, Hecken

    Ladies, Warm-Up Groups 5/6: Kim, Kostner, Asada, Lepisto, Rochette, Suzuki, Ando, Leonova, Sebestyen, Flatt

    Men, First Half: Borodulin, Fernandez, Amodio, Chipeur, Plushenko, Bacchini, Urbas, Kovalevski, Rakimgaliev, Pfeifer, Lindemann, Domanski, Nurmenkari, Kelemen, Ri

    Men, Warm-Up Group 4: Oda, Takahashi, Lambiel, Ten, Schultheiss

    Men, Warm-Up Groups 5/6: Verner, Lysacek, Brezina, Abbott, Joubert, Van der Perren, Chan, Contesti, Kozuka, Weir

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    While the draw method is correct (is the same used for Worlds, Euros and 4cc ), I believe there will be 5 groups of six skaters,, so there will be a few variations, like Oda and Takahashi skating in the last 2 groups


    Plushenko however , will definetly skate in the first half, so hes gonna set the bar for the rest of the event..

    No biggie in the ladies: all the main names will skate in the last 2 warm ups. Only Nagasu is screwed but shes not a big contender IMHO.

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    If that were the case, the pairs groups would have been 4-4-4-4-4, but they are instead 3-3-4, 3-3-4 in order to split the field in half. There's 30 ladies and men, so there's no way to have 6 skaters in each group and split it in half..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Wheeler View Post
    If that were the case, the pairs groups would have been 4-4-4-4-4, but they are instead 3-3-4, 3-3-4 in order to split the field in half. There's 30 ladies and men, so there's no way to have 6 skaters in each group and split it in half..
    Damn, you're right, oh well... the good news about that is that Group 4 is gonna be delicious : Oda, Takahashi, Lambiel , Ten and Schultheis !!!!!

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    Thank you guys for the info. My worry is not so much the order of skate as it is the editing NBC will do to make room for the commercials and the Stars' human interest stories. I'm one of those blokes who want to see the whole comp and not just the stars.

    I have a Sunday paper Listing of Oly events. NBC will show various events tonight from 7pm and end at 11pm. Thats 4 hours for PAIRS SP; Mens free style moguls skiing; Luge; and Women's Skiing (downhill I believe). How much will be given to each event?

    Is this an example of Ladies/Men?
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    according to fsu I quote some parts, i hope it is ok.

    Using ISU Rule 579, you get the following:

    1. Second half. Random draw for last two warmup groups (Groups 5 and 6) among the top 10 ranked men that are competing.

    (ISU World Standings Rank, Name, Nation)
    1 Tomas Verner CZE
    2 Evan Lysacek USA
    3 Michal Brezina CZE
    5 Jeremy Abbott USA
    6 Brian Joubert FRA
    7 Kevin Van Der Perren BEL
    9 Patrick Chan CAN
    10 Samuel Contesti ITA
    11 Takakiko Kozuka JPN
    13 Johnny Weir USA

    2. Random draw among remaining 5 men in the second half for Group 4.

    Group 4 (not necessarily this order)
    14 Nobunari Oda JPN
    15 Daisuke Takahaski JPN
    17 Stephane Lambiel SUI
    18 Denis Ten KAZ
    20 Adrian Schultheiss SWE


    3. First half. Any unranked skaters skate first (draw amongst these, one in this case).

    Skating first in Group 1:
    UR Song Choi Ri PRK

    4. Draw among the remaining skaters in the first half for Groups 1, 2, and 3.
    23 Artem Borodulin RUS
    26 Javier Fernandez ESP
    28 Florent Amodio FRA
    37 Vaughn Chipeur CAN
    38 Evgeny Plushenko RUS
    47 Paolo Bacchini ITA
    50 Gregor Urbas SLO
    56 Anton Kovalevski UKR
    58 Abzal Rakimgaliev KAZ
    70 Viktor Pfeifer AUT
    80 Stefan Lindemann GER
    81 Przemysław Domański POL
    88 Ari-Pekka Nurmenkari FIN
    126 Zoltan Kelemen ROU

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    Have they officially announced the draw yet? I saw on Jeremy's tweet that he was on his way to know when he was skating and then going shopping.

    Plus he asked Meryl to be his Valentine. She accepted! How cute! Jeryl!
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    There's an update on Twitter for some of the skaters
    @IN: Men's draw highlights: Evan 28, Joubert 21, Chan 24, Abbott 29, Weir 25, Oda 20, Takahashi 17, Lambiel 19, Plushenko 10

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    Just saw the skating order! Here's how it looks like:

    1 DPR Korea RI Song Chol
    2 Ukraine KOVALEVSKI Anton
    3 Slovenia URBAS Gregor
    4 France AMODIO Florent
    5 Austria PFEIFER Viktor
    6 Kazakhstan RAKIMGALIEV Abzal

    (2nd flight)

    7 Poland DOMANSKI Przemyslaw
    8 Finland NURMENKARI Ari-Pekka
    9 Canada CHIPEUR Vaughn
    10 Russian Federation PLUSHENKO Evgeni
    11 Italy BACCHINI Paolo
    12 Romania KELEMEN Zoltan

    (3rd flight)

    13 Russian Federation BORODULIN Artem
    14 Germany LINDEMANN Stefan
    15 Spain FERNANDEZ Javier
    16 Kazakhstan TEN Denis
    17 Japan TAKAHASHI Daisuke
    18 Sweden SCHULTHEISS Adrian

    (4th flight)

    19 Switzerland LAMBIEL Stephane
    20 Japan ODA Nobunari
    21 France JOUBERT Brian
    22 Japan KOZUKA Takahiko
    23 Italy CONTESTI Samuel
    24 Canada CHAN Patrick


    That's one heck of a flight.

    (final flight)

    25 United States WEIR Johnny
    26 Belgium van der PERREN Kevin
    27 Czech Republic VERNER Tomas
    28 United States LYSACEK Evan
    29 United States ABBOTT Jeremy
    30 Czech Republic BREZINA Michal



    Wow all 3 Americans on the final flight, along with the 2 Czechs, and KVDP. This is gonna be fun!

    Plushy is going on early yet again. Hopefully it's not like what happened in 2006 in which the door was already closed by the time the 2nd flight began. Chan vs. Joubert vs. Lambiel... hmmmm! And good to see Javi and Denis with Daisuke!
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    #17-22 wow. One after another.

    Interesting spots for the american guys, I can't wait to see how Johnny holds up if Chan brings down the house. Evan and Jeremey going 1,2 in the final warm up group.

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    Seems like JAbb is very happy about being near the end!

    "I skate 29 of 30 in the Short Program. I too cant wait too "frolic" with @Meryl_Davis on this amazingly beautiful day!" (Jeremy's recent tweet)

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    Ok, so Chan and Johnny are seperated? That's gotta help. An ice cut (10 min) and the 6 min warmup will allow the crowd to come to it's senses before Johnny skates.

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    Again, as mentioned earlier in this thread, I'm fairly certain it's 5-5-5-5-5-5 instead of the 6-man groups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Wheeler View Post
    Again, as mentioned earlier in this thread, I'm fairly certain it's 5-5-5-5-5-5 instead of the 6-man groups.

    Hmm in that case....

    1 DPR Korea RI Song Chol
    2 Ukraine KOVALEVSKI Anton
    3 Slovenia URBAS Gregor
    4 France AMODIO Florent
    5 Austria PFEIFER Viktor

    (2nd flight)
    6 Kazakhstan RAKIMGALIEV Abzal
    7 Poland DOMANSKI Przemyslaw
    8 Finland NURMENKARI Ari-Pekka
    9 Canada CHIPEUR Vaughn
    10 Russian Federation PLUSHENKO Evgeni

    (3rd flight)
    11 Italy BACCHINI Paolo
    12 Romania KELEMEN Zoltan
    13 Russian Federation BORODULIN Artem
    14 Germany LINDEMANN Stefan
    15 Spain FERNANDEZ Javier

    (4th flight)
    16 Kazakhstan TEN Denis
    17 Japan TAKAHASHI Daisuke
    18 Sweden SCHULTHEISS Adrian
    19 Switzerland LAMBIEL Stephane
    20 Japan ODA Nobunari

    (5th flight)
    21 France JOUBERT Brian
    22 Japan KOZUKA Takahiko
    23 Italy CONTESTI Samuel
    24 Canada CHAN Patrick
    25 United States WEIR Johnny

    (final flight)
    26 Belgium van der PERREN Kevin
    27 Czech Republic VERNER Tomas
    28 United States LYSACEK Evan
    29 United States ABBOTT Jeremy
    30 Czech Republic BREZINA Michal

    The 2nd half is gonna be fun to watch! Since only 24 will make it to the LP, which 6 you think will be out?

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