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    Why women aren't allowed to ski jump in the Olympics

    I find their reasons pure discrimination.


    http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...963447,00.html
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    it does seem odd that they don't allow women, but I'm not about to burn my bra over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johar View Post
    I find their reasons pure discrimination.


    http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...963447,00.html
    I completely agree - it's a scandal. As Ladies jumping is getting more and more popular and also sometimes televised in Europe, I don't think they can keep that position for the next Olypic games, at least I hope so.

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    I feel the men behind the decision are sexist, which is a term I seldom use. What will their excuse be in four years?

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    It probably has something to do with the fact that some strong ski jumping countries hardly acknowledge female jumping at all. For example ski jumping is one of the Top 3 most popular television sports in Finland but I've never heard of any competitions held here for women. It's quite baffling really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pohatta View Post
    It probably has something to do with the fact that some strong ski jumping countries hardly acknowledge female jumping at all. For example ski jumping is one of the Top 3 most popular television sports in Finland but I've never heard of any competitions held here for women. It's quite baffling really.
    In Switzerland and Austria it is not very popular yet as well, but at least the Austrians have one or two good jumpers. The problem is that the best female jumpers are from countries which don't have very good male jumpers - the US, France. As far as I know in Stams, the famous Austrian boarding school for Ski Sports, they accept female jumpers now, and very, very seldom they show a competition in Eurosport. That makes me hope for the future. Sometimes things just need a bit time to develop - think of the summer Olympics and ladies pole vault. It was only Olympic in the 1990s, and how popular is it now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonichelle View Post
    it does seem odd that they don't allow women, but I'm not about to burn my bra over it.

    Why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zowie View Post
    Why not?


    ITA. And that - on a symbolic level - was what the élite female jumpers did by going to court. I didn't follow the whole story in detail, so I don't know by whom the campaign was led, but when I read about it a month or so ago, I thought they have been denied because the whole thing took place too shortly before the Olympics. Still I am confident that they have a fair chance by trying it again for the Sochi games.

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    I love ski jumping and would love to watch the ladies jump. Come on, IOC, do the right thing! There should be no men-only sports.

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    Love the Dick Pound statement, goes with his name. Would love to shove a ski up his ... to be perfectly frank. What a bunch of OLD f.rts!

    Well, women managed to fight it out for everything else, they'll fight it out for this too. It's just appalling that they even have to fight it out in the first place in the 21st century. But we all know how corrupt IOC is and really, if they just greased the right palms it would go through. Of course, where do they get the money? Hate this kind of thing.

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    A lot of things in life are sexist... not just sports. It's the same mentality that the US has about women in combat... they aren't allowed to be in any combat positions or on the frontline. People still feel like it's their job to "protect" women. It might be the 21st century, but change is slow in that department.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wicked View Post
    I love ski jumping and would love to watch the ladies jump. Come on, IOC, do the right thing! There should be no men-only sports.
    Well there are female only sports - rhythmic gymnastics and synchronized swimming...

    The whole issue was not sexist nor was it discrimination. The female ski jumpers simply waited too long when they brought this issue to court. The IOC voted on Women's ski jumping back in 2006 (where it was denied because it did not meet the criteria) and when the women tried to get into the Olympics only a few months before the Games, it rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. They kept trying to sue VANOC as well - which had no control over the situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by i love to skate View Post
    Well there are female only sports - rhythmic gymnastics and synchronized swimming...

    The whole issue was not sexist nor was it discrimination. The female ski jumpers simply waited too long when they brought this issue to court. The IOC voted on Women's ski jumping back in 2007 (where it was denied because it did not meet the criteria) and when the women tried to get into the Olympics only a few months before the Games, it rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. They kept trying to sue VANOC as well - which had no control over the situation.

    What criteria was that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zowie View Post
    What criteria was that?
    Not enough counties participating, not enough participants, they did not have a World Championship at that time, etc. Perfectly reasonable explanation.

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    Isn't this a dead-simple issue? Lack of global participation is why the sport isn't in the Olympics. No gender bias whatsoever - the IOC simply says that Olympic medals are for elite athletes and so any sport with at best fringe worldwide active participation is not eligible. The sport has only been in existence for 4 years and the first world championships was only last year. This is exactly like the suggestion above - just because 5 local teams of male idiots choose to form a synchronized swimming team doesn't mean they should be awarded the same Olympic medal as the 100-metre dash winner.

    If women's ski jumping participation grows to the point where it, say, has half the participants of male jumping, then I think it will and should be an Olympic event.

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