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    "Team Plushenko whining again; this time, it's skating order" - Article

    Read this on Yahoo! while searching for the medal count:

    Yahoo! Article by Maggie Hendricks
    "Team Plushenko whining again; this time, it's skating order"

    Mishin: "The instinct for the judges is the late groups are better skaters."

    "If Mishin and Plushenko want proof that the start order means nothing, they should look to Sunday night's pairs short program. The Chinese pair of Xue Shen and Hongbo Zhao were the very first skaters to take to the ice, and they broke the scoring record."....So true

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    There is one good thing out of COP, IMO. Skate order shouldn't play as much of a role. Under the old system, the judges probably would've scored S/Z lower in case another team performed better - in other words, I would've been shocked of S/Z got all 6.0's or 5.9's for their SP going 1st.

    Going early does mean that an early skater might have to create more energy in the building and not all of the audience was seated. I'm glad they are announcing the skate orders - otherwise, i might not have tuned in early enough for S/Z's SP.

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    I don't mind the order really, it certainly didn't bother him in Torino when he skated, what, second? I think Mishin is just being himself though he is more objecting to the system than whining.

    And whining 'again'? Meh, I just don't get the animosity towards Plushenko.

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    Oh please. And if it was a blind draw he very well could have drawn 1st. Skating early does not matter under CoP. Look and Shen and Zhao. I wonder why Mishin alwasy feels that Plushenko is slighted when his student goes out and scores 100 points for the SP.

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    How quickly Plushy forgets that he skated only 2nd in the Olympic SP draw in Torino. Takahashi skated 1st in that SP.

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    Frankly I just think it's some sort of tactics, because of all the talk about Inman etc and him telling that joke in the end. He probably knows very well it means little, it's just mind games he's playing.

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    (as an aside...) I think I'm in the minority, but I really preferred the complete random draw for the Olympic SP, the way it used to be done... it somehow seems more exciting that way for me, like you never know who is gonna lay it down and when

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    Actually, statistically it does. I remember Mathman posted soma data about it once.

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    Love Mishin's joke.

    And the Plushy / choreo thing has always been my main knock on him. I was afraid when he first won that we'd see his expession, choreo etc. firm into an ironclad sameness... ( at the time, sort of in challenge to Yagudin.) So, I feel robbed , because we'll never see anything different from him, and I always felt he was capable of more artistically.

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    But if he pulls off a deserving win , I'll be happy.

    From what i've seen of the changes Brian has made at Euros, I feel he has for the first time, seriously tried to address his weaknesses. It might be too little, too late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reynycpr View Post
    Read this on Yahoo! while searching for the medal count:

    Yahoo! Article by Maggie Hendricks
    "Team Plushenko whining again; this time, it's skating order"

    Mishin: "The instinct for the judges is the late groups are better skaters."

    "If Mishin and Plushenko want proof that the start order means nothing, they should look to Sunday night's pairs short program. The Chinese pair of Xue Shen and Hongbo Zhao were the very first skaters to take to the ice, and they broke the scoring record."....So true
    This article means nothing, except to show that North Americans are intimidated by Plushenko's come back and trying to do everything they can to diminish him.

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    I love Mishin's joke

    Mishin told a joke to express his feeling that the judges' mindset hadn't changed.

    ``One time the devil came to God and said, `We should organize a figure skating competition between the underground and paradise.'''

    ``God said, `Listen, you suggest a silly thing because all Olympic champions are with me.'''

    ``The devil answered, `All the judges are with me.'''

    That is the best thing I have read today !

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