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Iam glad iam not the only one who enjoys the compusory dances
This is the first time I actually liked Dom/Shabs! They were in a class by themselves as far as hotness goes.
Iam glad iam not the only one who enjoys the compusory dances
Thanks again Viv. That Vals Tango had a lot in it including a story.Joe, a Vals Cruzado from one of my favourite Tango Argentoni dancers, especially for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGeJ0vsnnKU
I believe there is a difference between the Argentine Tango and the Tango Romantica. The rhythm of the dance is the same but the music may be more sensual for the Argentine Tango and the music for the Tango Romantica would be more senuous. There is a difference in the style of the two tangos. I like variety, so my preference is both but for different reasons. How all this plays with the judging, I have no idea.
Would you consider just dropping the adjectives of the two styles and simply say Tango?
Sorry, I meant the Tango Romantica CD specifically, that's what happens when you get up in the middle of the night to watch compulsory dances, lol. Though I guess my opinion about dance quality applies to all tangos.
But what I mean to say is that if anyone is curious and wants to compare today's CDs to old couples, tango romantica CD from G/P. K/P, T/D and many other good couples are all up on youtube, I think this kind of looking back also gives an idea of what the judges are looking
(And this is why I'll be crying when CDs are kicked from competition, I think it's cool that you can make comparisons across generations with the CD, but this is another issue entirely.)
What is Jennifer Robinson doing, commentating ice dance, what does she know about dance, not much the way she yukcs on sounding out of her league?
Thanks again Viv.
You do know the story of the Argentine Tango. Not sure if it is true, but this is what was told to me:
It comes from the Pampas Region of Argentina which is not the most livable provincce but it produces all those cows making the world reknown beef. Since women did not like the area it was populated by mostly men. So on weekend nights the men did the Euro Tango together, but emphasized the dominance of the the couple in a test of strength. - (this can be seen in old newsreels) When the men travelled to BA, the ladies wanted to learn it that way.
Tracy and Sandra are on US TV because of their professional association with Scott Hamilton. Scott was the lead commentator for CBS from the mid 80s through the 90s. He brought Sandra (who was the head choreographer for Star on Ice, Scott's show) on board at CBS for 1990 Worlds. NBC bought the rights to Worlds from 91 through 95. She already was calling World Pros for them, so she was paired with Robin Cousins the first year, then worked on her own with a color commentator (Enberg, etc) the other years except 94 when she was pregnant. Then she went to Canadian TV for 98 Olympics.
Tracy did some Canadian TV (1990 World for example with Toller Cranston) while her pro career (also with Stars on Ice) was coming to an end (due to Rob McCall's illness and death). Then CBS picked her up for 1992 Olympics in part because Scott hated calling ice dance. She's been paired with him in TV roles ever since for "amateur" and pro events.
When NBC bought the rights to the winter games and hired Scott he brought Sandra and Tracy on board with him. Scott has a lot of behind the scenes influence regarding who gets opportunites. For example, Michael Weiss (a longtime Stars on Ice cast member) is doing behind the scences tech analysis with the NBC production crew.
A problem that the German eurosport guys pointed out is that this dance is so old and doesn't really challenge the top couples, since it originated in the 70s and ice dance has advanced since then technically. That's why they are all at the same level so a more demanding and new CD could probably help making the judging fairer and separate the wheat from the chaff.
Thanks jcoates!
So the "Stars on Ice" connection plays the big role here.
Very, very intrersting!
BTW I wonder what happened to Enberg. He was the NBC sports news announcer who did 91-94 worlds, wasn't he?
Did he retire, or does he still cover things like golf games?
I actually liked him more than Tom.
Hamilton hates calling dance not because he doesn't like it but because he does not consider himself an 'expert' and so he doesn't feel as qualified. It's a completely different event to that of singles and pairs with very few elements that are the same so I understand it.
Dick Button has/had the same amount of pull - if not more - over at ABC.