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Thread: Chan, Stojko & other Canadians discuss the men's event

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    I think Patrick has learned his lesson! Glad he is going to hang in there!

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    This kid is such an idiot it's not even funny:

    "Chan said that "anyone can do the quad," insisting the jump gets too much attention and distracts from the true artistry of the sport."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alatariel View Post
    This kid is such an idiot it's not even funny:

    "Chan said that "anyone can do the quad," insisting the jump gets too much attention and distracts from the true artistry of the sport."
    He sort of has a point though, a lot of the lower level skaters of the night did quads and it didn't help their scores much.

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    Sure they did. How many landed quads? Hmm? And since everyone can do it I wonder where his is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alatariel View Post
    Sure they did. How many landed quads? Hmm? And since everyone can do it I wonder where his is?
    Right here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wru0zU20ZwE

    Oh snap!

    Now before you complain about how this isn't a major competition, or it was just the warm-ups, you only asked if he's landed a quad. But feel free to go back and edit your post and throw in some qualifiers, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alatariel View Post
    Sure they did. How many landed quads? Hmm? And since everyone can do it I wonder where his is?
    Okay so quads:
    Verner - 19th place
    Schultheiss - 15th place
    Kozuka - 8th place

    And though they didn't land it
    Pfeifer - 21st place
    Fernandez - 14th place
    Amodio - 13th place
    All have one in their arsenals. Doesn't this prove the point that having a quad doesn't make you a podium threat if these skaters no one really knows or hears about can do them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverlake22 View Post
    Okay so quads:
    Verner - 19th place
    Schultheiss - 15th place
    Kozuka - 8th place

    And though they didn't land it
    Pfeifer - 21st place
    Fernandez - 14th place
    Amodio - 13th place
    All have one in their arsenals. Doesn't this prove the point that having a quad doesn't make you a podium threat if these skaters no one really knows or hears about can do them?
    Now, now, let's not divert the argument into something that is not the issue here.

    Everyone can do quads.

    We have 3 there plus Plushenko plus Lambiel (his was barely done but still) and the attempts were those 3 plus Dai plus Joubert. So 5 landed and 5 missed. Out of the 24 finalists, the best skaters in the world (and it really says so much about you when you say that no one really knows about them) we have 10 attempts in the finals with a fifty percent rate of success. This is pathetic. A jump that's been around for 10 years pretty much and 5 out of the best 24 do it? Everyone can do quads ... right.

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    So your argument is that Patrick Chan said something that is clearly hyperbole, but isn't literally true, so therefore he's wrong and an awful person? Oh, it is? Well, ok. ::backs away slowly:: ::runs::

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alatariel View Post
    Now, now, let's not divert the argument into something that is not the issue here.

    Everyone can do quads.

    We have 3 there plus Plushenko plus Lambiel (his was barely done but still) and the attempts were those 3 plus Dai plus Joubert. So 5 landed and 5 missed. Out of the 24 finalists, the best skaters in the world (and it really says so much about you when you say that no one really knows about them) we have 10 attempts in the finals with a fifty percent rate of success. This is pathetic. A jump that's been around for 10 years pretty much and 5 out of the best 24 do it? Everyone can do quads ... right.
    The point I was trying to make was that of the 10 who attempted and 5 who landed the quad, the "level"/quality of the men was varied. Some were at the top of the pack, some in the middle, and some toward the bottom. Granted, being at the "bottom" of a pack of the 24 best skaters in the world at the Olympics is still pretty darn good (especially if you're name is Tomas Verner and you're capable of being much better than he was yesterday), but essentially, everyone knows who Evan Lysacek is and the same can not be said for Adrian Schultheiss, even though he has a quad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverlake22 View Post
    The point I was trying to make was that of the 10 who attempted and 5 who landed the quad, the "level"/quality of the men was varied. Some were at the top of the pack, some in the middle, and some toward the bottom. Granted, being at the "bottom" of a pack of the 24 best skaters in the world at the Olympics is still pretty darn good (especially if you're name is Tomas Verner and you're capable of being much better than he was yesterday), but essentially, everyone knows who Evan Lysacek is and the same can not be said for Adrian Schultheiss, even though he has a quad.
    Oh for gosh sakes there are clips of Sasha landing quads in practice.
    Chan meant if you just want to skate down the ice and do nothing but concentrate on jumping and rotating 4 times many skaters can do it. Girls can do it. Silverlake can probably do it - although I can't.

    The problem is to be able to do it when it counts and to make it fit with the music. Plushy can do it consistently but all he does is skate a few cirlces around the rink preparing for it with no regard for the music.

    He might as well line up barrels and jump over them for as artistic as it looks. Then there are the terrible facial contortions that seem to be part of the quad deal.

    I don;tmind them and I don't particularly like them either.
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    Whoa I want to see those videos of Sasha landing quads in practice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverlake22 View Post
    Whoa I want to see those videos of Sasha landing quads in practice!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epIsRJSjotE

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    Patrick Chan only needs two 2As and 'transitions' to the next OGM if the current trend in 'MEN''s skating continues. The most overmarked so-called 'talent' in skating history. This guy can not even land a clean 3A!!! for God's sake.

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    Chan attempted three 3As in his Olympic programs. He landed just one cleanly. He stepped out of the 3A in the SP and fell on the second 3A in his FS.

    The next thing you know, he will stop doing 3A (like Lambiel) and say there's no need for 3A because everyone can do one. Difference between Chan and Lambiel, though, is that Lambiel landed two quads in his FS and Lambiel is a fantastic performer. Chan is a technician, but he doesn't have the ability to sell the program the way Lambiel does.

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    Utterly ridiculous... there are some sad, bitter people on here. To these trolls: What were you doing at 19? And did that year demonstrate the peak of your maturity??

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