I was thinking the same thing when I was watching Plush skate. I had seen it all before.One has a State of The Art program and the other is mired in the 90's.
It gets tiresome after a while, Scott's fake friendly attitude to promote SOI, or his book, or whatever he's doing at the moment.
I've finally drawn the line after watching his NBC interview last night. Enough's enough for me.
I honestly wish him the best, and hope to God he's allright, because he sure didn't look it last night. Maybe whatever it is that is eating at him has affected his commentating. That's the only thing I can think of. Get better, Scott.
How do you know that the other skaters don't put in full days of training and complete run throughs? Where did you hear that Evan does full days of training and complete run throughs while his opponents haven't? Again, I don't question Evan's hard work. I question the comparison between the other skaters and him.
Alatariel, I appreciate your clarification. I agree with your statement that competitors should "swallow the bs when their turn comes." That's why I strongly disagreed with the IOC awarding Sale/Pellitier a gold medal. It set a precedent that now the Russians are following through with Plushenko's silver medal. Where's the British "stiff upper lip" with regards to the North Americans and the Russians?
Last edited by ademption; 02-20-2010 at 01:00 PM.
And please, don't even get me started about Salt Lake City. We ALL know what happened then...
I have a lot to say, but I feel like limiting my post, partly because so many here (thank you) have already expressed very well, things I want to say. As an American, I am quite embarrassed by those posts of my fellow countrymen that are in the tone of the Cold War, a tone which is contrary to the spirit of the Olympic Games.
My favorites, over the years, have come from many countries. I celebrate when my favorite athletes win, no matter what is their country of origin, because for me it is about the individual athlete.
ETA: I meant also to include my embarrassment when the media people behave as if they enjoy the Cold War mentality.
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NBC should be ashamed of themsalves. I remember back in 2002 they called Yagudin "skating conservatively" because he did only only one quad combination instead of two... I could laugh all night.
What do they think now of their skater Lysacek?
Shouldn't everyone say he skated conservatively?
My God how people's opinion change according to their interests?
Thank God they are recorded in TV, so that someone can expose them...
And from what I can remember in men's field the highlights were the jumps, but now they are something unimportant.
Back then they thought of PLushenko and Yagudin high, but now they bash Evgeni.
In Yagudin's LP in Salt Lake City the reporters were holding their breath in 4-3-2 combination and were cheering on Evgeni's attempt on 4-3-3 but now it's nothing important and plays no part in medals.
I am so sick I think I will never watvh figure skating again.
NOBODY can play games with the audience intelligence, we have memory and we remember what they were saying back then and what they are saying now.
What do we learn in all of this?
Russian politicians are pretty pompous.
Poutine may be a good spy turned enlightened despot, but his artistic tastes are questionable.
Watch the Lysacek program again, then the Plushenko program. I mean the PC marks are obvious gifts.
Plushenko's program looks like a cheesy exhibition program. It's hard not to laugh.
sorry, i was interrupted while posting, so this might seem off-topic...further back, someone justifying P's program on the ground that it was a Tango
That was not Tango. I don't mean the music , but the performance. The were no tango steps that I could see. Tango has no pelvic gyrations. Tango is the most sensual, passionate dance ever.. but it wasn't expressed here.
Give the man credit for what he did. He made a great comeback. It's amazing that he stepped back into the fray in the great form that he did. He has left his mark on figure skating..no question.But he came back into a competition and his choreography was lacking. It could have been criticized even under the old rules for front loading ,placement of jumps , stopping to pose, etc.
When we fail to acknowledge that there were any weaknesses ,we rob any justified arguments of credibility.
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Of course there are weaknesses in Plushenko. The trouble is Plushenko has weaknesses and Evan Lysacek is the perfect all round skater.
Lysacek was the first to skate, he had to go all out, not hold back, which he did. To jump the quad was not in his plan, as he had problems with the old injury from previous season.
"Tango has no pelvic gyrations"
You obviously have never danced the tango