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    News Questions raised over ice dance judging panel

    http://www.ctvolympics.ca/figure-ska...+judging+panel

    The panels drawn for the compulsory dance on Friday and for the original dance tonight favour Russian-bloc countries, international judges contacted by The Globe and Mail allege.
    Last edited by gsk8; 02-22-2010 at 01:53 PM. Reason: Too much of article copy/pasted.

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    Well, I can see who will win this one. Congratulations on your gold medal, Dominina and Shabalin.

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    The machinations have already begun, S&P all over again, have no fear Canada will take the gold in ice dance just to shut them up.

    Oops, forgot Sandra Bezic & Scott Hamilton, the holes in their face will be flying nonstop like at the 2002 Olympics.

    And that's JMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadine View Post
    The machinations have already begun, S&P all over again, have no fear Canada will take the gold in ice dance just to shut them up.

    Oops, forgot Sandra Bezic & Scott Hamilton, the holes in their face will be flying nonstop like at the 2002 Olympics.

    And that's JMHO.
    LOL!! Just remember there's no Scotty and Sandra for ice dancing. Thank goodness!! Tracy Wilson has her biases but they aren't as blatant as Scotty and Sandra.

    It's so great to see how North America media intends to continue this Cold War narrative--evil Russians vs good North Americans--into this competition. Maybe they'll stop this nonsense for the ladies' event?

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    It's a disgraceful piece of journalism, quoting from anonymous sources and filling it with we believe, he said/she said etc. I've been a journalist for 20 years and that wouldn't have got into our local weekly newspaper never mind a national newspaper. It's scandalous muck raking and nothing less. People seem to forget the two assistants that each judge has alongside them to check for GoE and whether the figure or jump they're performing actually conforms to the necessary technical requirements plus the fact there are nine judges in total and that it's the scores from a random five of them which make up the marks (unless they've changed it again?!)

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    Yes, I love all these konspiracy theories (or rather hints at) regarding judging panel.

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    On the figure skating preview/review show, Terry Gannon just asked Tracy Wilson what she thought about this article and potential bloc judging. She said that she thought that the judging of the compulsory dance was fair. She also mentioned that sometimes there are cultural clashes that create different judging outcomes. My impression was that she didn't take much stock in this article at all.

    Again, I really admire Tracy Wilson for diffusing the issue. I'm sure Tom Hammond will try to bring it up tonight to continue the Cold War theme that NBC is advocating right now. But I hope that Tracy treats the situation in the same way that she did this afternoon and swats down this rumor.

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    I hope this doesn't spread. Skating doesn't need another scandal of this sort. D/S were great, the current judges agreed overall, and the author fails to note how subjective ice dance scoring is in the first place. Of course other judges are going to have their own opinions. It doesn't mean there's anything shady going on.

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    Unfortunately, Tracy Wilson is not working on CTV and Rod Black, as well as Jennifer Robinson, from what I heard of her commentaries during the CDs, are prone to hyperbole. Who knows what they will say tonight on the home network.

    I am, however, rather troubled to read about the judge who had negative assessments and was dropped in Turin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxade21 View Post
    I am always amazed at how insecure those Cnadians are. Jesus Christ, so that's the only way you can win, by having Canadian judges on the panel?
    If Russians are so 'secure', why do they need to export their judges to those satellite countries? Why would a disgraced judge be put on the panel? Pot calling kettle. Hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cadiva View Post
    It's a disgraceful piece of journalism, quoting from anonymous sources and filling it with we believe, he said/she said etc. I've been a journalist for 20 years and that wouldn't have got into our local weekly newspaper never mind a national newspaper. It's scandalous muck raking and nothing less. People seem to forget the two assistants that each judge has alongside them to check for GoE and whether the figure or jump they're performing actually conforms to the necessary technical requirements plus the fact there are nine judges in total and that it's the scores from a random five of them which make up the marks (unless they've changed it again?!)
    To be honest, I don't believe any mainstream media have any more credibility. Being a journalist for 20years does not make you more credible than others these days, it's probably the contrary in most instances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watchvancouver View Post
    If Russians are so 'secure', why do they need to export their judges to those satellite countries? Why would a disgraced judge be put on the panel? Pot calling kettle. Hilarious.
    Nobody else have qualified judges. That's why they also export their coaches because nobody has them qualified enough. And because of the help of those secure Russians who are secure enough to train competition you even can compete and write those nasty articles.
    Is that clear?

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    Can we at least wait to see what happens?! The CD was judged fairly and this is something everyone agrees on.

    We've seen the DomShabs at Euros and unless the others bomb there is no way they can win, unless they improve which I think unlikely, with that kind of standard.

    Meh, this reminds me of the whole Plushenko mess - smear the Russians way ahead of the contest so that we have a back up plan to fall on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by watchvancouver View Post
    To be honest, I don't believe any mainstream media have any more credibility. Being a journalist for 20years does not make you more credible than others these days, it's probably the contrary in most instances.
    I wasn't commenting on my credibility, I was pointing out that the standard of reporting in that piece wouldn't have made it into my local weekly newspaper never mind a national daily

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    Despite this bloc judging theory, I think that the CD was judged fairly, so I don't think that there's anything to worry about just yet. However, I am displeased that the judge who was dropped from the Turin Olympics is on the panel again. If she did something bad enough to be dropped, she should never be allowed to sit on another olympic panel again.

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