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    I have one name for you, Trixie Schuba. Many of us know what I am talking about. I remember the absolute fiasco of Trixie Schuba winning because of her superior figures. Unfortunately, she skated a really awful LP but won because of her figures. That's why they changed the system amd I was 100% for it. Still am. That should never happen again. That is the one part of the system I wouldn't change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyla2 View Post
    I have one name for you, Trixie Schuba.
    What's that name again?

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    I adore figures. I'm sad that I never had the chance to skate until 1994, when I was well into adulthood and figures were on their way out in the US. I did manage to get to the USFSA 1st figure test though. I loved the silence and the meditative Zen-like quality, a good 5 am patch session always put me in a good mood before heading off to work!

    If I ever become a rich lady, I will build myself a small indoor home rink, big enough to practice serpentines. I still have my figure boots, blades and my highly prized scribe! The only problem is that the figures coaches seem to be a dying breed.

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    I remember going to an Ice Follies/Ice Capades show just after Trixie won.......and she opened her show number with a spot light on her doing back one-foot loops!!!! Of course, back one-foot loops were 8th test figures -- so I was in awe. However, even at that young age I was a bit disappointed with her 'freeskate' program that followed.......even I could do most of her routine.

    BTW - I'd have no trouble coaching an 8th figure test to my students now --- and I'm not that old. The last figure test one of my skaters tried was an 8th test and a 7th test.......about 15 years ago....but I still have my old rulebooks and coaching notes somewhere!!!

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    Some of the best Adult Masters programs include figures. Larry Holliday has done a back paragraph loop in some of his programs (redhotcoach, you called it a one foot back loop, but its official name is a back paragraph loop) to go with a double Axel and a couple triples, Amy Entwhistle did them in one program, Michael Orr incorporated them this past year, and Scott Sheets used them in Intermediate/Novice this past year as a connector. I think Larry's back paragraph loop got almost as rousing a cheer as the 3S.

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    Actually, mskater93 - the one foot loop is called a Loop Change Loop - at least in my ISU rulebook from 1993, (ISU fig 39 a) and that is the term that we always used. Perhaps paragraph loop is an Americanization of the term . The forward or backward edge is indicated by the RFO-LFI or RBO-LBI designation in front of the Loop Change Loop phrase.

    BTW My coaches did refer to brackets as paragraph brackets at times.

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    I'm getting so nostalgic reading this thread! There is nothing in the world that compares to the dimmed lights and the "sound" of a 5am patch session! All you heard was the quiet mumble of a coach here and there and that amazing sound of edges...::sigh:: And can any of us forget that feeling in the pit of our stomachs when we completed our last pattern and the judges would walk over and analyze every single mark on the ice? ::SHUDDERS:: SO terrifying! Oh, how I miss figures!

    I don't think MITF is as effective as figures were, they are such different beasts!

    As for the discussion above, I was always taught "Loop change loop" in figures, and my coaches would use the term "paragraph" more in reference to a footwork sequence in a freestyle program.

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    I'm not sure if I miss school figures but I would be all for using the SP as an Element Championship. No music - just elements being judged as in all sports. Free Skate the next day with emphasis on artistry. Three medals awarded; for Presision Elements, Artistry, and Combined E and A. The Quad complainers will have their moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyla2 View Post
    I have one name for you, Trixie Schuba. Many of us know what I am talking about. I remember the absolute fiasco of Trixie Schuba winning because of her superior figures. Unfortunately, she skated a really awful LP but won because of her figures. That's why they changed the system amd I was 100% for it. Still am. That should never happen again. That is the one part of the system I wouldn't change.
    Removing figures from competition is entirely different from removing them as part of the training requirement. I don't think anyone's arguing for a return to competition, just like we don't do MITF in competition. But figures offered a level of training in finesse & control that we don't get from anything else.

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    Well, each national federation can require figures for lower-level competition or for testing at all levels if they want. USFS is putting some figures-like moves back into the Moves in the Field tests.

    Each individual coach can require his or her skaters to practice edges and turns on circles, even to train specific school figures and to take the tests if their federation still offers them, as USFS does in theory (or ever offered figure tests -- some federations don't measure skill level by testing at all).

    But the ISU can't dictate what happens outside of junior and senior competition. Even their novice competition rules are more guidelines that not all federations stick to. So they certainly can't require specific training techniques.

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