How about 4S+4T+4T, 4S+3Lo, 3A+3T, 3Lz, 3F, 3S, 2A, 2A.Originally Posted by bethissoawesome
How about 4S+4T+4T, 4S+3Lo, 3A+3T, 3Lz, 3F, 3S, 2A, 2A.
You are right.... your combination is 54.5 base, mine was 54.25. Match point goes to Mathman.
Eek... completely forgot about the 4T. Although I think our skater would be on the ice dying or coming at us with their skate blade after trying to land a 4-4-4 combination, then 4-3, then a 3A-3 lol.
And all of this would be after the halfway mark, of course.
If you're going to count vague "moves" as transitions, then every skater in the final flight had them. (In fact, I'd be surprised if they weren't moving before or after jumps!) Yuna's two clear transitions were the ina bauer into the 2A and the spread eagle into the 2A/3T. I didn't see significant footwork into any other jumping pass. Mirai's clear transitions were the spread eagle into a 2A, the ina bauer into the 3Lo-2A sequence, and the footwork into the second lutz.
And after our skater sweats blood with level 4 step sequences and spins, obviously we would need our skater to do difficult transitions between these jumps.... maybe throw one arm up into the air on that 3rd quad in the combination to gain some points tooAnd all of this would be after the halfway mark, of course.
Well I don't think I can top that!!
Hopefully Mathman will provide his own calculations, but as far as I can tell, the following is damn near to the optimum protocol.
*Ladies SP*
3A + 3Lo 11.00 + 3.00 = 14.00
3Lz = 6.00 + 3.00 = 9.00
2A = 3.50 + 3.00 = 6.50
FLSp4 = 3.20 + 1.50 = 4.70
CCoSp4 = 3.50 + 1.50 = 5.00
FCCoSp4 = 3.50 + 1.50 = 5.00
SpSq4 = 3.40 + 3.00 = 6.40
SiSt4 = 3.90 + 3.00 = 6.90
Total TES = 59.70
PCS = 10.00 x 5 x 0.80 = 40.00
Total = 99.70
*Ladies Free Skate*
FLSp4 = 3.20 + 1.50 = 4.70
CCoSp4 = 3.50 + 1.50 = 5.00
FCCoSp4 = 3.50 + 1.50 = 5.00
SpSq4 = 3.40 + 3.00 = 6.40
SiSt4 = 3.90 + 3.00 = 6.90
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3A + 3L = 13.2 x 1.1 + 3.00 = 17.52
3A = 8.20 x 1.1 + 3.00 = 12.02
3Lz + 3T + 2Lo= 11.50 x 1.1 + 3 = 15.65
3F = 5.50 x 1.1 + 3.00 = 9.05
3Lz = 6.00 x 1.1 + 3.00 = 9.60
3S = 4.50 x 1.1 + 3.00 = 7.95
2A + 2A + SEQ = 7.00 x 0.8 x 1.1 + 3.00 = 9.16
Total TES = 108.95
Total PCS = 10.00 x 5 x 1.60 = 80.00
Total Free Skate Score: 188.95
Total Competition Score= 99.70 + 188.95 = 288.65
Assumptions: GOE of 3.00 to every components, all PCS components 10.00, placing all the jumps in the second half in the free skate, The spins used are all valid without "no-count", etc.
Limitation: No quadruple jumps taken into consideration
Completion rate
-Ladies SP: 78.50/99.70 = 78.74% (2 d.p.)
-Ladies FS: 150.06/188.95 = 79.42%(2 d.p.)
-Ladies Total: 228.56/288.65 = 79.18% (2 d.p.)
P.S. Thanks for welcoming me into the forum with such an entertaining session of calculation fantasy!! Feel free to leave comments and discuss the matter further.
Last edited by sydneyphoenix; 02-26-2010 at 11:55 PM.
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Math is wonderful :D That is definitely the maximum you can do unless we have a fantasy ambidexterous skater who can use a clockwise 3Lz at the end of combinations hehe. Thanks for the breakdown... it's interesting to see how the current scores stack up against what would be the highest possible scoring SP and LP.
I totally agree. Why is he so good?
Because he understands the system and how to fine tune it too each skaters' personality in a unique way. He's in the 3rd (I believe) episode of "Be Good Johnny Weir," and just from watching him interract with Johnny, you can also see that he knows how to "sell" the choreography in a way that the skater also wants to do it.... so he winds up creating something that works great with the system and the skater has fun practicing and performing with it day after day.
Interesting artcile in yahoo.co.jp for those who can read japanese,
http://vancouver.yahoo.co.jp/news/nd...12-jij_van-spo
I have wondered about the CoP and the fact that there doesn't appear to be any official statement about the maximum possible score for each discipline and division each season. Of course that would change with each rule change, but for me the system would be more meaningful if we knew where skaters were on a scale with a defined end as well as beginning rather than being open-ended, practically speaking. But I have to wonder if casual fans or potential fans would be turned away by knowing that even the gold medalists are only X number of points close to the maximum possible score. And I don't think officials want the calculation headaches -- or do they? I'm truly puzzled by this whole issue.
could anyone translate this please? what does it say?
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