I think Joannie is going to skate how she's going to skate. Especially given the circumstances in her personal life I don't think a little think like start position will make too much of a difference. I just want her to skate with her heart. Heck, if she really needs to pull out at this point then I would support that too.
Exactly. While it's hard for me to say results are meaningless, I have to admit the tragedy of the past week and the grace and strength she's showing is worth more than a medal to me. You know what, for all the dumping Canada's taken this season (Perfectly Canadian Scores, the failure of the "Own the Podium" program, the tragedy on the luge and people conflating that with Canada's thirst for medals), I feel moved and proud that this young lady said "yes - even in this time of crisis and grief, I will represent my country at the Olympics."Originally Posted by Nadia01
And if, like Fruit Loops states, she needs to pull out, I will treasure the memory of the short program with all my heart.
I don't think that right now it matters at all to Joannie who she skates after - she could skate after fricken Barbara Ann Scott doing pairs with Katarina Witt and I don't think it would matter much right now to her. But the long wait I think is going to be the hard part - keeping her concentration and focus, not letting her mind wander to circumstances.
I like how Mao gets to skate after Yu Na. If she nails her program she'll be more likely to have a higher score rather than a new WR score from Yu Na had it been the other way around.
Joannie will have a chance to secure a silver should Mao make a mistake in her routine.
Me, too! Let's not jinx it by talking about it too much!I hope the standings now in the short program is the podium we're gonna get.
I think things are different with this skate. She's not going to be listenting to the marks and worrying if there's room for her on the podium; she's just going to be trying to get through it and skate with her heart for her dear mom. No matter how the crowd cheers for Yu-Na and Mao, it will be nothing compared to how the audience is going to respond when Joannie comes out tonight-especially after her skate last night.Joannie has skated directly after Mao many times in competition: 2008 TEB LP, 2009 4CC LP, 2009 Worlds LP, and now, this Olympics LP. I think she's used to being in that position.
I think of the 3, Joannie has the best use of the music (S&D). Don't get me wrong, Yuna got a well-rounded program (G's CoF) but people find the music a bit blah compare to Bond. And Mao got 2 3As planned but (BoM) is too dark for her. Since all 3 are skating back-to-back-to-back, here's what they need to win Gold:
Yuna: skate clean, that means no pops, no falls, no omitting jumps. I really want her to go all clean. Even if Mao and Joannie goes clean, she'll still win.
Mao: skate clean with no URs on her 2 3As, skate with plenty of attack (BoM maybe be dark but powerful). Also hope Yuna makes at least 2 mistakes.
Joannie: skate clean (she's the only one with 7 triples of the 3), bring Delilah to life just like she did at Nationals, and skate with the usual attack and most importantly skate in automatic pilot. She already have the audience (and a certain guardian angel) behind her, she should seize the moment. Also hope for a meltdown from Yuna and Mao to miss one of her 2 3As.
Also remember Joannie came back from 5th to 1st to beat Yuna at Skate Canada back in 2006 so it's possible.
I want one if not all 3 to have the skates of their lives tomorrow. All 3 have been through a lot in this cycle (Yuna's injuries, Mao's axel issues and changing coaches, Joannie's losing her mother) and wouldn't mind any of the 3 to win. I did hope Miki wasn't too far behind so she can compete for a medal but never say never.
Here's what I hope the ladies should skate tomorrow nite:
Yuna's Gershwin's Concerto in F (from TEB): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISE0eRenwU8 (note: hope no omitting the flip)
Mao's Bells of Moscow (from 4CC): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTSCiEB6vxo
Joannie's Samson & Delilah (from Canadian Nationals): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcbZHTPSsx0
Last edited by ARipp42014; 02-24-2010 at 10:56 AM.
I don't like this at all. Mao does not have the nerves of steel like yuna. Seeing a huge score could spell disaster for her. Poor Mirari has to close the show and Miki has to skate before the Big Two. Only Kim has a good spot and she does not need it.
Is Mao not going to have a 3/3 in her program? I watched her nationals routine and it seems like a waste of points to not have a 3/3 somewhere. Why wouldn't she have it in her free skate?
Because she can't land it.
This is assuming that the judges consider Mao's LP better than Yuna's LP.
Else, it could unduly penalize Mao -- meaning the effect works in reverse.
And should Mao be "meh", then Joannie, who's going next, will look so much better by comparison, which boost Joannie's score.
Again, not favorable for Mao.
That's what I thought too. Unless Miki rocks -- which I highly doubt, not w/ her atrocious costume & music -- Yuna is going to look great. And I also believe that Yuna is probably going to be fairly clean, based on what we've seen today. If she gets a huge score -- let's not forget she holds the world record score for ladies LP from TEB, even though she skipped a flip -- it may affect Mao.
I also wonder what is Mao's mental state. It's got to be incredibly disheartening to realize that your best -- no UR, positive GOE, etc. -- isn't good enough to beat your rival.
Last edited by Nadia01; 02-24-2010 at 11:32 AM.
Random draw
I think her PCS suffered a bit from skating early, like Mirai. Also her 3-3 was only 3t-3t which is worth significantly less than 3f-3t or 3lz-3t and about the same as 3lz-2t. I know her lutz got -GOE and if you look at the judges scores her layback was only level 3. The score could have been a bit higher but she seemed happy. I would have had her and Mirai's scores a little higher, I thought they were both better than Rachael and Miki but Rachael got the benefit of the doubt on her 3-3 so that's what put her ahead and Miki is a medal contender so even after downgrading her combo they gave her a score that wouldn't put her completely out of the running (like they did with Lambiel in the men's SP).
Mirai in pimp spot, wow. I guess she's used to it though and Frank will help her get in the right mindset for it. Skating last might be better for her than skating directly after Mao or Yuna. I think she'll rock it, and hopefully where she has made the final flight her PCS will be higher like she deserves. I hope she can stay in 6th but anywhere in the top 10 for her I say is a job well done. So proud of this girl!
Last edited by silverlake22; 02-24-2010 at 12:29 PM.
I'm watching US's Meet The Olympic Press in which our buddy Phil Hersh is on and he's surprised how well Rachael and Mirai is performing. He also glad to see Mao landed her 3A.
Also I remember that at every Olympics, the VANOC gives an award for perseverance during the games. I think that Joannie should get that award even if she doesn't medal (it's the Terry Fox Award for perseverance). http://olympics.thestar.com/2010/art...-for-terry-fox
Tweets time:
Evan (about JoRo): Joannie Rochette was so inspiring last night. I've never seen an arena filled with more love. We are all skating with you Jo! So proud of U
Johnny (also about JoRo and his Angel, Ksenia): The ladies were amazing. Joannie provided the iconic performance of this Olympics. Ksenia was a diva rockstar. Thanks Bosco Family!!
Ashley Wagner (from home): My heart goes out to Joannie, that must have been so hard for her, she showed that the Olympics are more about the moment than the medal
Elana Meyers (US Bobsledder, sharing the Joannie love): I am amazed & inspired by Joannie Rochette-her performance was awesome last night in the midst of tragedy-This is what the Olympics is about
Simon Cho (US Short Track Skater and Yuna admirer): Good job today Kim Yu-Na. Keep it up!
No tweets from Rachael and Mirai today so far.
Last edited by ARipp42014; 02-24-2010 at 12:39 PM. Reason: forgot to add tweets
I don’t know, with this skate order I think it might be Michelle and Tara all over again. There’s just so much hype around Yuna. I’ve seen so many profiles on her and hardly anything on Mao (until last night). She’s pretty much been crowned Olympic champion. I would not be surprised if Mao skate lights out and best Yuna for the gold.
The long program is going to be tough for Joanne. I hope she can stay strong and skate as beautifully as she did last night. If she does that in the long program I don’t think she’ll have any problem taking bronze, maybe even silver if Mao and Yuna have trouble.
If the US ladies skate as well as they did at Nationals (provided Mirai doesn’t receive any downgrades) they should either remain where they are on maybe move up slightly depending on how the others do.
I’m excited for Thursday! As someone stated up thread, I hope no one implodes, especially none of the top 6.
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