02-26-2010, 11:56 PM
I think the placement (of the top 4 that is) is right. It's the margin of victory I don't agree with, however. Kim should have won probably by 10 pts max, not 30. But of course the judges won't be held accountable for that because the result is mostly non-controversial. Yawn. Next!
02-27-2010, 12:30 AM
I don't see this as a "loophole" at all -- loophole suggesting an unintended consequence, usually benefiting someone who isn't intended to receive said benefit. As Mathman said, the option was left in so that the last jumping pass doesn't have to be completely wasted. This is true for everyone. Yu Na is not using a "loophole," nor is she "messing" with the system in the negative sense, or being "tricky." She's being strategic and smart by constructing her programs to gain maximum points under the rules. I actually don't like this system much at all, if I were a competitive skater I would loathe having to worry about selecting my jump layout, moves, choreo, etc. etc. to gain points rather than to serve what the theme/mood of the program is supposed to be, what I might be good at, etc. I don't like the system but it is what it is. Why direct so much pointed criticism at one skater repeatedly just for being strategic about the rules? Terms like "tricky" and "messing" and "loophole" and "pad" continue to cast aspersions on Yu Na, and not only that, you generally single Yu Na out for your use of such loaded terms.
Originally Posted by hurrah
Originally Posted by Mathman
Last edited by ManyCairns; 02-27-2010 at 12:44 AM.
02-27-2010, 01:19 AM
I guess I do single out Yuna repeatedly, because I see her as the person who was singled out by the judges as their favorite and got the benefits of the present system, and I really do recognize that she would have won without the judges' help---and for this I really respect her---but it stll doesn't make it right that the gold would have been handed to her regardless.
Originally Posted by rallycairn
I'm a Mao fan, you see. I hate to see a system in place where Mao's passion, effort and talent wouldn't have had an effect on the outcome. And it's more heartbreaking for me because she's just so stoic and yet at the same time maintains such a sunny disposition in face of the whole situation.
And I guess I use forceful language to put my points across, because my impression is that these boards are very often used for politiking anyway.
Last edited by hurrah; 02-27-2010 at 01:22 AM.
02-27-2010, 04:01 AM