Your TOP 5 MOST UNDERSCORED/OVERSCORED programs from the Olympics?
The competition was great, most skaters performed better than expected, but there can no be figure skating without some moments where the judging and/or scores makes us go "uhmmm""
So what where the top 5 performances in which the judges were too generous or too strict.
TOP 5 UNDERSCORED:
01. Johnny Weir's LP :
For just a few seconds after hi finished skating, I thought he might medal by a few points
if the judges go for it, sadly I was soo wrong.
02. Pang & Tong's SP:
While I was ok with the placement , they were too far from the top 3 and undservedly so.
This probably cost them the gold medal.
03. Belbin & Agosto's OD:
Skating after VM was unfortunate for them, but still way better than the aboriginal show.
04. Khokhlova & Novitski's FD:
Ahh the tragic faith of being the second dropped team. Their FD was the voidiest of the
evening. A shame.
05. Mukhortova & Trankov's SP:
They were beautiful despite the mistake but the judges didnt hesitate in burying them down
to 8th below the local kids.
TOP 5 OVERSCORED:
01. Domnina & Shabalin's FD
02. Chan's LP
There was no need to held him up, he already had a default place in the gala.
03. Lambiel's SP
Such an amazinq skater, but always underperforming, yet the judges didnt mind at all.
04. Zaretski's FD
SamuelsonBates, CappelliniLanotte, CronPoirier, BobrovaSoloviev, all teams much deserving
of a top 10 finish.
05. Kim's FD.
The best ladies winning performance in olympic history ??. Yes. A world record breaker with
over 17 points in just GOE?? I dont think so.
Now, tell me yours...
I think all in all, a ton of people were off scored
looking for fresh blood
The scoring was all over the place. Some people got off easy on URs and edge calls, others got hit hard. Some had GOE's that were ridiculously through the roof, while others made you scratch your head and wonder why they weren't near the others. PCS marks for some people ranged by 3 points in one component. All of that makes it a little difficult to pick the top 5 over and underscored.... I would just say, generally, the scoring was inconsistent throughout all of the disciplines.
Lepisto's 126.61 still has me
I couldnt agree with you more.
Originally Posted by reynycpr
she just only landed a 3lz in her free skating and got 126???
jugding from it, yu-na's high score were fairly judged.
Just imagine what if she happened to land a 3flip! This girl has been gifted through her career. On a good day, she could land 3 triples in a long program but still score above 105! Not big surprise for her 126 pts for landing 5 triples.
Originally Posted by yangjie
European girls really need to start landing some serious jumps.
She landed 5 triples! even with two she cracks 110, so i wasnt that surprised.
Originally Posted by reynycpr
Overall for me last night the marks were so inflated! Mao's 67 PCS, Yuna's 150!!! just a joke, Althouhg i loved the marks they gave to Akiko, and Mirai
Johnny Weir LP
Nobunari Oda LP
Plushenko LP(LOL, I am one of those who support the quad,even though i love the complete package in a program)
Belbin and Agosto OD
Tahakiko SP and LP
Laura Lepisto LP
Yuna Kim Lp(Stunning program, the truly winner but really, 3t at the end of her lutz combo was way UR but whatever)
Patrick Chan LP( amazing footwork, and he has a lot of good skating skills, nice edges, but not be considered better than Weir, that night)
Plushenko Sp(Tech strong but flat and boring when the jumps were done)
Mao asada LP(Just about the PCS, really she is nowhere near of her artistic level at 2008, hope to see her reborn herself for the next olympi cycle, she deserved the same olympic spot as Yuna for her hard owrked)
Johnny Weir LP
Plushenko SP and LP (They need to seriously overhaul the point bases for jumps, QUAD is severely undervalued)
Asada SP and LP (Triple axel should be worth at least one more point than the hardest triple-triple combo)
Nagasu SP and LP
Pang and Tong SP and LP (robbed!)
Shen and Zhao SP and LP (especially LP)
Yuna Kim SP and LP
Rochette SP and LP
Lysacek SP and LP
Flatt SP and LP
The Future Mrs. Evan Lysacek
I must agree with yours, although I think Kim's performance is #1 in my book for overscored. Sarah Hughes and Tara Lipinski's winning programs were much better.
Originally Posted by SamuraiKike
Except under COP Sarah Hughes would have gotten below 100 and possibly below 90 b/c she underrotated every single jump
Originally Posted by #1Kerryfan
Mirai, Mao, Belbin and Agosto, Johhny Weir were all underscored. Yu Na and Lepisto were overscored. It has nothing to do with beauty. It may have more to do with nationality (Belbin and Agosto-they weren't going to put two US teams on the podium), personality (Johhny Weir) and gaining a track record (Mirai). None of which I agree with. Mao was underscored for what she did and Yu Na was overscored for what she did. Should have been closer although the result was right.
Last edited by kyla2; 02-28-2010 at 12:32 AM.
Overscored: Flatt (if you go to non-US boards, you'll really get a taste of how she looks to non-American fans)
Underscored: Plushenko, Mao, Pang/Tong SP, Johnny (both SP + LP)
Artistry, it isn't only the European skating boards that view Rachael Flatt as lacking in artistry. I am American and I feel the same. I think she is a gifted jumper and a nice person. She is totally lacking in every other respect. If she worked at it, i think it could be fixed. But she and her coach have to acknowledge the issues-poor posture, average programs, poor music, poor choreography, and a lack of grace. Take some ballet and dance classes Rachael. Ashley Wagner made tremendous improvements in these areas. Rachael could too if she set her mind to it. One writer described her skating as "slow and methodical." He was right.
This was my thought too immediately after the FS, but after reconsideration and multiple viewings, I have to disagree with you. The difficulty levels of all her elements, especially her jumps, are so high that I actually think she deserved greater GOEs than she received. Much praise has been lauded on the height, speed, air position, and coverage of her jumps, with which I wholeheartedly agree. But her transitions are also unbelievably difficult. The spread-eagle/Ina Bauer entry into her 2A combination jumps are super difficult, as all the commentators have remarked. But also look at the 3S and second 3Lz jumps, for example. She stays on her landing foot for a full 3-4 seconds after each, performing 4 turns after the salchow and 2 turns after the lutz, and covering about 30 feet of ice after each, all on said same landing foot. That is just incredible! She needs to exit her jumps with perfect balance, incredible speed and perfect flow in order to pull that off. No other female skater even attempts these types of moves, and she should have gotten at least +2 GOEs on both jumps (she only got +1.4 GOE on her 3S). She more than deserved her positive GOEs and anyone who says different has either not paid enough attention to the details of her program or simply doesn't know enough about skating.
Originally Posted by SamuraiKike
Last edited by sleepyjl; 03-22-2010 at 03:01 AM.
Top 5 underscored
1. Johnny Weir's LP
2. Belbin & Agosto's OD & FD they were underscored entire competition
3. Denney & Barrett's LP
4. Asada's LP PCS should have been higher
5. Flatt's LP
Top 5 overscored
1. Kim's LP Way too high
2. Plushenko's SP & LP Jumps were ok, but PCS way too high
3. Rochette's SP & LP
4. Domnina & Shabalin's OD & FD
5 Asada's LP where were the different types of jumps? only 3a?