There are clips of her practicing the 3loop so I'm sure they are prepared already for if she'd need it.I mentioned the importance of the 3loop in regard to the possibility that the ISU may limit the number of 2axels. If they only allow 2 double axels in the LP, Yu Na's maximum potential points for jumps will go down by 3.5. The only alternative is for her to learn another triple, and the 3loop may be more feasible than the 3axel.
Here is a news article in English that mentions Orser talking about 3A:
For now, she plans to defend her world title in Turin next month and Orser also hopes she will stick around for a while as he wants her to learn some more tricks.
"I'd love her to learn the triple Axel, that would be pretty sweet. But I haven't told her that yet," he conspired.
Nothing is for sure yet, but I also would think, that the most logical step for her is to put 2 3-3 combinations, or some other types of combination like 3-2-2. However Brian must know better. What I'm sure about is that if she will try to learn 3A they won't push it too hard, because Yuna's health is the top priority for them, so there is nothing to worry about...
ETA: I realize that under the current rules, in order to do that combo, she would have to eliminate her 2A-3T and her single triple lutz. With the lutz at 6.6 points and the combo at 7.5 it wouldn't be worth it.
If she got back the 3L, maybe. Here's a proposed jump layout
3Z-3T or 3Z-3L
2A-3L (can you realistically do this combo? if not do a 2A - 3L sequence) or 2A-3T
Last edited by Mrs. P; 03-01-2010 at 08:27 PM.
Well who knows how long she was practicing the jump, but I'm figuring that she probably didn't have it cosistent enough to try it in competition until 1989, otherwise she'd have tried it in the 1988 Olympics, don't you think. But the question is how many years did it take her and Tonya to master it, and how long were they landing it in practice before they did it in competition....Wow I didn't know that! Why didn't Midori try 3A in comp earlier? She would have had it, no?
Last edited by bekalc; 03-01-2010 at 08:23 PM.
I know, I just said that for me it seemed more logical to continue trying new combinations (3-3-2 too) than learning 3A. It looks like she already landed it some years ago, but abandoned it because of the risk of the injury. I'm still not sure, because Mao was struggling so much with that jump... It's the hardest jump of all and Yuna doesn't really need it. Of course, it would be amazing to see 3A from her.She's done 3-2-2 most of her career. She can do them easily she just does the 2axel/2toe/2loop because she switched to the 3lutz/3toe. The thing is that 2 3/3s in the long won't change her base value, so its not worth it.
I agree. By the way, I'm not sure, but wouldn't she get some points at least? Like for skating skills or something like this? it just seems surreal that there is no points at all for hard combinations...It would get her no new points because she wouldn't be able to do her 2axel/2toe/2loop. The system is sucky when it comes to combinations.
Last edited by Daniel5555; 03-01-2010 at 08:30 PM.
Sounds like Orser wanting to milk Yuna.
The goal would be to keep the combinations she has double axel/3toe, 3lutz/3toe (and practicing the 3flip/3toe) while adding in the 3axel. The only concern really would be injuries.
Yes Yu-na doesn't need the 3axel right now, but she could need it in the future. There are youngsters like Mirai nipping at her heels, so to speak. Getting the 3axel would put her one step ahead of them. Its smart. Now of course we have to see the jump before we know she can do it. But I think working on the 3axel and trying to get it would be the best way to ensure she stays on top.
And of course the jump is difficult. The main thing though would be to learn from Mao and not let the 3axel get in the way of her other jumps, or the rest of her skating. Yu-na is helped by the fact that her technique on the other jumps is a lot better than Maos.
One thing I think Yu-na could do to improve would be to work on her footwork, so that she could maybe get level 4.
Yu-na already has won everything. So she has in a lot of ways nothing to lose.
Last edited by bekalc; 03-01-2010 at 08:34 PM.
Thank you for explanation. For me Brian talking about 3A is not a joke at all, of course.
There is always something to improve and she knows it. If she decides to stay for another season, she will improve something for sure.One thing I think Yu-na could do to improve would be to work on her footwork, so that she could maybe get level 4.