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    Cameras at SOI venues?

    Just a question for those who attend- besides no flash, what has been the camera policy? I think I've heard of certain lenses being restricted (or am I confusing it with USFS?) but would like to make sure. What have been your experiences? I don't want any surprises. Thanks, RD

    P.S. I was going to call the venue and ask...maybe I'll do it tomorrow.

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    USFS and other show's I've attended (another Scott Hamilton production) have a 200mm max. policy.

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    OK thanks. I'll check with the venue and see if the folks there have any idea. 200mm is way more than enough reach for me anyway, considering I'm sitting in the front row. 50mm should be good enough for me anyway, considering I practicallly could not zoom in at all with my snapshot camera at previous shows because the lens system was so freakin' slow...

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    At SOI in San Diego in 2009, they didn't allow any kind of DSLR. I guess it's different from venue to venue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehdtkqorl123 View Post
    At SOI in San Diego in 2009, they didn't allow any kind of DSLR. I guess it's different from venue to venue.
    Really? Wow. That would suck...

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    it's because some DSLRs are used as video cameras, which are always always ALWAYS forbidden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonichelle View Post
    it's because some DSLRs are used as video cameras, which are always always ALWAYS forbidden.
    Then you may as well ban all cameras and phones because virtually EVERY SINGLE digital camera nowadays has some sort of video mode...frankly I would think it's much easier to get away with a cell phone or small camera video than with an SLR
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonichelle View Post
    it's because some DSLRs are used as video cameras, which are always always ALWAYS forbidden.
    it was because they thought DSLRs are for professional photography. (when I asked, they said so)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ehdtkqorl123 View Post
    it was because they thought DSLRs are for professional photography.
    Wow, they must be stuck in 2003 or something...


    DSLRs (and even some decent lenses) are quite affordable nowadays. They are not for just pros any more.

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    interesting. the professional grade lenses are the only thing I've seen banned from an arena... one that's a fast shutter or long focal length gets the boot, but not an actual body.

    and the video issue is never truly enforced at USFS events.


    ETA - and not to sound like a photosnob or anything, but you can have the most fantastic equipment in teh world and the pictures still look awful. It's not the hardware that makes the photographer a pro (or even semi pro) it's what they do with it. You can have quality composition with any camera...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonichelle View Post
    ETA - and not to sound like a photosnob or anything, but you can have the most fantastic equipment in teh world and the pictures still look awful. It's not the hardware that makes the photographer a pro (or even semi pro) it's what they do with it. You can have quality composition with any camera...
    How true that is. I've played with film SLRs a little in the past, but this was my first digital SLR. And yes, there's certainly a learning curve (as well as room for growth!)...buying one has actually forced me to learn to take better pictures (and I like that BTW. That was the intent).

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    When I've attended SOI shows in the past, the arena staff has always objected to a DSLR because of it's movie-making capability. However, when I carried a non-digital SLR they only wanted to know how big my lens was to make certain it was under the 200mm limit. The last time I took my DSLR to the show I got hounded by one particular usher who was dead certain that I was recording video with it because I took a long time to set up a shot ( he didn't have a clue how a digital camera works, lol, although he didn't admit that). Before intermission he approached me, with a security escort, yet!, and told me to go with them to the arena office for a discussion about the footage I was "supposedly" taking. I wasn't at all worried because I knew there was no video on the memory card---I wasn't taking any, lol. Needless to say, the usher had a considerable amount of egg on his face when his suspicions proved to be wrong. I did have to scroll through all the photos on the card to prove there was no video on it, though. In talking to the supervisor of the ushers I found out that the arena staff prefers non-professional photographers to bring non-digital SLRs because, with them, they are sure no one is taking videos; they know they can't be everywhere to police everyone. All in all, it was not a very nice experience. I hope no one else will have to deal with anything similar to it. After that, I stopped taking a camera with me; it was simply too much hassle to put up with.

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    But it's only been recently (i.e. the past two years) that DSLRs have even HAD the capability of taking video. Kind of stupid though because at least on the Canon cameras from what I understand the SLR has to be in live mode (i.e. you see something on the LCD screen) to shoot video, so it would be obvious. I don't think it works through the viewfinder.. Don't know about Nikons or Sonys though.

    Recalling from my own memory I remember in Baltimore in 2008 they checked people's cameras (I simply had a Canon Elph so I had nothing to worry about)...but I don't remember the DC or Philly folks doing that last year.

    Anyway, how is this any different from using a P&S to shoot video? I mean, with those you preview pictures through the LCD screen anyway so it would be easier to get away with it...IMO, they should make it clear on the ticket or website what equipment they don't want people bringing so there are no surprises.
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    IIRC SOI did have photo policy on their site at one time, not sure they still do.

    USFS is very clear in their photo policy.

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    I found it in their FAQ:

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    What is the policy for bringing cameras to the show?

    No flash photography or videotaping is allowed during the performance. Non-flash cameras with lenses less than 70mm are permitted.

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