Whatever happens with this -- and I think enough people are asking questions so that the ISU may eventually issue a response -- any protests concerning a competitor's participation in a competition must be filed before the event starts. (Right, George?) So it would make little sense for another federation (i.e., Estonia) to protest now. Hopefully Peter Krick addresses this soon.
I say -- let's send three U.S. ladies to Torino just for the heck of it and see what happens.
Estonia should demand that the ISU rent the rink for another day after the competition is over and allow the Estonian kids to skate their long program in front of the judges.
Edited to add: By the way, giving credit where it is due, this question was first raised (as far as I know) by Watchvancouver (aka Fiercemao, etc., etc., etc.) on this thread several days ago.
This is all really quite strange. Yes, mistakes happen. But the Chinese Skating Federation can count to 13. They have known for a year that they had qualified two teams. (?)
Last edited by Mathman; 03-11-2010 at 06:35 PM.
Apparently at the ISU rules are like the Pirates' Code in Pirates of the Caribbean -- they are more like suggestions.
Edit: Rule 123 says protests against participation of a competitor must be filed before the start of the competition. Whatever start means. Before the draw? Before the first competitor skates? The rules don't says, but it is obviously too late as the competition is now over.
Last edited by gsrossano; 03-11-2010 at 07:28 PM.
Knowing the Chinese like I do, it would not surprise me if money passed hands in a back room--speculation. Money or no, unless ISU can point to a defined loophole or exception that the Chinese legitimately took advantage of, the Federation should be punished by the ISU nullifying all 3 Chinese pairs' results, and the standings and medals for the pairs events redistributed. And a one-year suspension from international competition. Yes, this sounds harsh and punishes the skaters, but this is the only kind of message the Chinese federation (and govt) will understand. Ignoring "the rules" (age rules) worked for them in more than one Olympics for gymnastics, so why not bend them for figure skating too? If allowed, they WILL take unfair advantage of the rest of the world if it benefits them.
This could happen again as Pairs is not the most populated sport. I don't think this should be swept under the rug, as the topic of this thread is questioning the Isu to verify its own rules. What is the Rule on Filling the Gaps? Does it exist in writing?
The question to be put to the ISU is why fill the gaps with top 6 skaters or teams. Nikidinov at least was not put against a top 6 skater.
I'm counting to at least FIVE who have showed their racist bones.
Last edited by watchvancouver; 03-11-2010 at 07:39 PM.
The Chinese question will be ignored other than it is a top 6 team with special privileges. How much time is permitted for protests, and are all the teams advised before the competition?
and, btw, the Grande Prix questions should not be ignored. The question of the thread is about ISU rules.
Last edited by Mathman; 03-11-2010 at 07:59 PM.
Peter Krick is the same guy who made an innocent draw for the Olympic CD look like it might be crooked.. The ISU should consider replacing the idiot.
Apparently counting to 13 is beyond him-probably because he would have to take off his shoes to keep track of the count.
But Frick did not conduct the draw alone. He was assisted by a Russian judge and an official of the Russian Olympic team, plus a small child who actually reached in and drew out the marker.
I will ignore watchvancouver's comment, who is either a Chinese apologist, or who doesn't have to deal daily with the realities of scruple-less people.
Last edited by antmanb; 03-12-2010 at 05:28 AM.