Neither really. He certainly wasn't "artistic" in the way someone like Jeremy or Takahiko is. I'd just say he was entertaining in his own...admittedly odd but always fun way. And the fact that he was so unique put him closer to the "genius" category than creep.
What a thoroughly unpleasant poll. Whatever you think of Candeloro's skating, there's no reason that I know of to suggest that he's disgusting or a creep.
A really nasty way to word things.
It is entirely possible to be a genius, an artist and a creep simultaneously.
His D'Artagnan program at the 1998 Olympics was wonderful.
I think some might agree with me that he is a creep. In Toller Cranston's book, the 30 Most Interesting Skaters, or whatever, he says that Kurt Browning could hardly watch Candeloro's George of the Jungle program without feeling sick to his stomach. Neither could I.. nor his Saturday Night Live one!
I always loved watching Philippe's programs. They were always so creative and interesting. My vote goes for genius. BTW, does anyone know what he's up to these days?
I don't feel comfortable voting in this poll (so I won't), but I actually enjoyed most of Philippe's eligible programs. However, I really think he did himself in with some of his professional programs - particularly "George of the Jungle."
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I don't believe Candeloro is an artist or a creep. I could never get past his feet when he skated; he never pointed his toes and his skating was a bit too heavy/labored at times. I do think he has a very creative imagination and that he is the biggest exhibitionist in skating history. I've seen more of that guy's skin than I ever cared to see. Now if he had Ponsero's or Joubert's body, I wouldn't have minded the excess skin AT ALL. Philippe is very fun though and full of charisma!
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Hardly a genius when his skating technique was very poor but I never tho't of him as being creepy. Over the top & in poor taste at times. I give him props tho for that one move of his, don't remember what it was called but it was a spin that wound down to the ice. Innovative.
Some of his eligible programs were kinda "genius", most of all "D'Artagnan" '98, of course. Like made for him, watching it still gives me goosebumps ... on the other hand, most of his, ahemm ... exhibitions (!) and pro performances were tasteless and sheer crap!
I'd like to know what context it was - but I'm with Kurt, that was a waste of time program and it won the World Professional Championships - that (coupled with it going into a ProAm format soon after) is the reason pro skating went down the tubes. It was ridiculous.
That being said, his 1998 LP and his Professional "artistic" program of Braveheart are two of my favorite mens programs. His Sex Bomb where he assaulted the ice, and his george of the jungle are disgraces to his otherwise good skating programs.