Slightly off topic, but are the only test available in the States those to complete? Or is there also a testing stream for those who are not interested in competing at a high level?
Slightly off topic, but are the only test available in the States those to complete? Or is there also a testing stream for those who are not interested in competing at a high level?
There isn't a separate testing stream like in Canada. However, USFS did introduce fairly recently the new "Test Track" for non-qualifying competitions (6.0 judging is used): http://www.usfsa.org/Programs.asp?id=79Originally Posted by silver.blades
The test track is a new event for all nonqualifying competitions that limits the difficulty of skating elements performed in each level. The test track will line up the test structure requirements with the competition levels, giving skaters a fair playing field to continue competing and testing according to their abilities.
You can "test out" if you are not interested in competing. It's common for teens who want a goal and a reason to stay in the sport but cannot be competitive at a level for their age in the US (for example, Intermediates have an age limit and it's common for the skaters making Junior Nationals (Juvenile and Intermediate Nationals) in Intermediate to have between 1 and 3 triple jumps). To pass your Senior FS, the hardest jump you MUST land is a 2Lz, so it's acheivable for many skaters who stick with the sport but find themselves no longer competitive because they couldn't get a 2A + or because they lost jumps as they matured and were unable to regain them. This has been the argument with keeping the requirements of the Senior FS test what they are versus asking for a 2A or triples - because less than 1% of all skaters who start actually achieve their Senior FS test.
Because this topic is ISU GP Assignments so I am attempting to tie your question to the thread. Not everyone here is in the US, so to say that testing is required to skate Junior is not necessarily true for this topic, it only applies to US Nationals since people who were previously competing Nationally in the US as Novices can be sent to JGP events and could even potentially skate at US Nationals as a Novice again if they do not test (this is a very unlikely scenario, however)
I can think of a couple of cases in which this has happened -- in pairs and dance when there were so few teams who were age eligible for the JGP the following fall and who didn't break up that it was necessary to go to teams who had placed lower than 5th in novice at Nationals in order to fill the JGP spots. But those teams might want to stay at a level where they'd still be competitive within the US, since the US fields are often deeper than the JGP fields.
With singles, there are plenty of age-eligible competitors in the junior and senior ranks at Nationals that sometimes none of the top novices end up getting assigned to the JGP. With singles there isn't the problem of teams breaking up either.
In fact, 3 Novice pair teams from 2009 US Nationals competed in a JGP last season and returned to Novice for 2010 Nationals.
There are also the ISI series of tests in the US. ISI is a separate organization from USFS.
http://www.skateisi.com/site/sub.cfm...g_requirements
They have levels one through 10.
Freestyle 10 is actually harder than the USFS senior gold medal
2A2T combination
3Lp or 3S (skater's choice)
Death drop
Four alternativing axels in a row or your choice of 3T, 3F, or 3Lz
Double jump to the right and double jump to the left (i.e clockwise and counterclockwise) or your choice of 3t2Lp, 3F2Lp or 3Ltz2Lp
Three Arabian cartwheels in a row or three butterflies in a row
Creative dance step sequence.
Rohene Ward passed ISI 10, AFAIR.
I can't wait for the selection!!I'm chomping at the bit, waiting to see who gets what. Thankfully I am going on vacation so time will pass quicker
Thank you for the info on the American system. I always just assumed it was more or less the same as in Canada.
"Rohene Ward passed ISI 10, AFAIR. "
Rohene is the most amazing skater. I miss seeing him at our rink in Mpls; I heard he moved to Chicago. That man is such an artist -- as well as an athlete...the ability to turn in both directions. And that spiral! Unbelievable.
So,please stop using my post as a spring board by copying it into the Reply. You can start a new Reply without it. When you use my post, it looks as though I am a fool, and do not know the system.
Doris - Are Arabian Cartwheels permitted nowadays. I haven't seen one except for Kulic in exhibition. It is a very difficult trick!
So it's now getting very close.
Are we sure Yuna will join the GP series? .. I havn't followed the news lately.
What about Joannie, Evan, Plush and Johnny?
Was it that the federations are now responsible for assuring ISU who's joining and who's not?
We will know very quickly.
EDIT : Joannie most likely won't compete in the Grand Prix.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...rticle1600232/
Last edited by PolymerBob; 06-11-2010 at 09:38 AM.
I thought Johnny and Stephane said no more competing, and Plushenko just went back on training after germany hospital, wont compete also, at least for next season.
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