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Didn't the top six skaters used to get 3 events?
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Makarova and Leonova are each guaranteed two GP assignments because they both finished top 12 at Worlds. Shelepen is guaranteed one GP event because she is top 24 on the Seasons Best list; she also won silver at the JGPF, but it is unclear whether all JGPF medalists will get GP guarantees, or just the gold medalist. Agafonova might be guaranteed one GP assignment for her 3rd place at JW (if that rule, like the JGPF medalist rule, is retained). Ovcharova has no guarantees. Gozeva is #50 on the SB list and 50th on the ISU Ranking list, so she is guaranteed no GP assignments. She was 9th in her two GP events, 13 at Euros---way behind Makarova and Leonova, and 11th at Nationals. IMO, she'd be very lucky to get a host assignment at CoR. If the Russian federation wants to send Agafonova and/or Ovcharova to CoR, Gozeva is probably toast.
As for the JGP, the countries who get two ladies in all 7 events are JPN, USA and RUS.
I like Tony's guesses especially for the Ladies, but for the Men, it seems he has chosen only two Americans plus Evan if he continues skating. Surely Mroz and Messing could be added since US is a host country.Tony Wheeler (who is Tony_Wheeler on GS) has posted his Grand Prix guesses for the men and the women. Pretty interesting stuff.
The men: http://tony-wheeler.blogspot.com/2010/04/2011-grand-prix-series-who-gets-spots_21.html
The women: http://tony-wheeler.blogspot.com/2010/04/2011-grand-prix-series-who-gets-spots.html
Tony Wheeler (who is Tony_Wheeler on GS) has posted his Grand Prix guesses for the men and the women. Pretty interesting stuff.
The men: http://tony-wheeler.blogspot.com/2010/04/2011-grand-prix-series-who-gets-spots_21.html
The women: http://tony-wheeler.blogspot.com/2010/04/2011-grand-prix-series-who-gets-spots.html
Only as a host pick for NHK Trophy, as neither have an ISU 2009-10 Season Best score from 2009 Finlandia Trophy (because Senior B scores are not counted by the ISU). Nana Takeda was 13th at Finlandia and 9th at Nationals, while Aki Sawada was 11th at Finlandia and 19th at Nationals.No more chance for Nana or Aki ?
Thank you, you're right.Only as a host pick for NHK Trophy, as neither have an ISU 2009-10 Season Best score from 2009 Finlandia Trophy (because Senior B scores are not counted by the ISU). ...
Thank you, you're right.
The only Japanese skaters who can get assignments (let aside host picks) are :
Mao (2), Miki (2), Akiko (2), Kanako (1), Haruka Imai, Fumie, Yuki Nishino.
The numbers in brackets are the guaranteed assignments.
Only 7 Japanese ladies, plus yes maybe host picks at NHK.
Japan usually gets 12 to 13 slots so most likely two of them (probably Haruka and Yuki?) will get only one assignment if the host pick at NHK will be 1 adding to the seven above.
If there are no additional picks to the 7 ladies at NHK, then Haruka might get 2 assignments.
What about the US ladies? Can they keep the usual 16 to 18 spots this year?
I thought 18 last year was awfully a lot in proportion to those ladies' previous results.
Not really. Maybe the U.S. Ladies did not have a great showing relative to the major world events, but I think they all show reasons to get their spots.
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Ashley Wagner — She was ranked in the top 24 in the ISU World Standings as of April 2009. She was also a Jr. Worlds medalist. She also finished fourth in both her GP events last year. She got two spots (COR/NHK)
Mirai Nagasu — Despite a bad season, Mirai still was ranked in the top 24 in the ISU World standings. 2 events (COC/SC)
Caroline Zhang — Top 10 ISU World Standing, strong 4CC finish (4th just behind Yuna, Joannie and Mao). Also a medal during the 2008 GP circuit 2 events (TEB/SC)
Alexe Giles — Ranked 30th, which made it harder for automatic picks. But she was a host pick for Skate America and was likely rewarded for being a JGPF medalist in 2008. (TEB/SA)
Sasha Cohen — Despite not competitng she got two spots for the obvious reason — she was the reigning Olympic silver medalist. * And she was a host pick until she withdrew. (TEB/SA)
Kimmie Meissner — Despite being practically non-existent in the 2008-2009 season, she still was ranked #23. * (COR/NHK)
Total = 16 spots.
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Thank you Mrs. P for the details.
However, IIUnderstandC, "top 24" only means 1 guarantee. (Sasha 0)
5 of these 6 ladies above were guaranteed 1 spot each, and Alexe was a host pick and 4 were invited as to their second assignment.
Plus Sasha was invited to TEB, Bebe to CoC, and Becky to NHK, so 7 invited spots.
Where as Japan added 2 host picks but could only add 1 invited spot and ended up with 11 spots.
USA didin't get 18 spots mechanically, perhaps some "national frame" exists ?
And my main question was :
Can they keep the usual 16 to 18 spots this year?
Yes, 11 automatic spots plus whatever number USFSA can make other federations invite US ladies.
So other countries better polish their political tactics.
BTW I made a mistake in my last post so I edited it.
What Mrs. P quoted as my post has an error in it.