Javier Fernandez and Michal Brezina will be much talked about next season in the Figure Skating blogs. Mark me!Originally Posted by silverlake22
Javier Fernandez and Michal Brezina will be much talked about next season in the Figure Skating blogs. Mark me!
Tomorrow is Nobu's Birthday. Too bad he has to stay outside of the rinkThat's awful. My heart breaks whenever I see a skater implode... but his birthday to boot? Gosh, that's just sad.
The PCS totally works with me but the TES... Hmmm
Does anyone know how Florent Amodio skated? I'm enjoying Florent, Brezina, Adam, Ten and maybe now Javier come up from juniors and do so well. I also love all of their styles. They all have such potential for the whole package.
I hope so, I adored Brezina at the Olympics.
Nobunari's must have had the meltdown of a lifetime if he didn't even make the free skate. What a horrible way to end the season considering how much positive hype he was geting in the beginning of the season.
Nice to see Joubert come back after the disaster that was Vancouver.
Omg, Nobunari was awful. I wonder if something's wrong with him (injury or sickness). He didn't seem surprised or upset, really, by his bombing, but Nikolai asked him what happened so it must be something unknown to him at least. Another disappointment was Borodulin's blade breaking. I've never seen that happen. It would suck if there was only one spot for Russian men at next year's worlds and Plushenko strolled back and grabbed it. Ohh yeah, and I was sad about Ryan Bradley, but it must be hard to skate with a broken toe. I saw him wince in pain a couple of times, once at the beginning and once at the end, and his jump takeoffs were a little weird too.
Takahashi, Chan, Joubert, Kozuka, and Abbott were all amazing. I thought that Joubert would be first, but I don't know why some people are being so hard on Chan. He was really good!
I think that Takahashi will end up taking this, but it's going to be an exciting LP.
If anything, I think that's a compliment towards Daisuke Takahashi, validating why judges placed his competitor above himself. This is classy IMO as most elite athletes tend to believe they are the best. I think some people don't like Chan period, so their judgement is colored by their own preconceptions and see ghosts everywhere.
Try to think about the GOE and the non-jump elements and aske yourself, aside from the jump combo, was Joubert superior to Chan or Takahashi in the 7 other elements, for instance step sequences? Keep in mind also the Top two skaters likely got awarded Level 4 in one of their two step sequences, which automatically double the GOE received on that element vs. Joubert's step sequences, where are no where near being awarded Level 4. Now reflect back on Joubert's jumps, and ask yourself, how was the transition into the jumps and what was flow in/out of his jump? How solid was his landing in terms of his free leg, landing foot and upper body? Once you answer all those questions, I am sure you would pretty much answer your own doubts because what I saw in Joubert today was very similar to what Plushenko did in Vancouver. Yes, he got the big trick it was only one element and it wasn't that well done and the rest of his program sort of let him down and left the door open.The PCS totally works with me but the TES... Hmmm
I love Michal too, and Javi is just a breath of fresh air. I really hope Michal and Tomas dominate next season, I love them bothI hope so, I adored Brezina at the Olympics.
Nobunari's must have had the meltdown of a lifetime if he didn't even make the free skate. What a horrible way to end the season considering how much positive hype he was geting in the beginning of the season.
Nice to see Joubert come back after the disaster that was Vancouver.
As for Oda, http://goldenskate.com/articles/2009/w_ms.shtml he says he was not injured or sick, just very, very tense. Poor guy, he looked like a scared little puppy out on the ice
Uh, pot...kettle...black? Judging from your posts on IceNetwork....especially re: Vancouver Ladies!
Were you there? Because people who were there and saw Joubert live will say differently. Joubert had a great performance-that audience does not respond that way when someone has a poor performance-do that? He skated incredibly fast with a lot of sharp turns. His spins are very well centered and his footwork is fast as well. These things cannot be said about Plushenko's performance. And Joubert's lutz looked high enough to be a double.I am sure you would pretty much answer your own doubts because what I saw in Joubert today was very similar to what Plushenko did in Vancouver. Yes, he got the big trick it was only one element and it wasn't that well done and the rest of his program sort of let him down and left the door open.
In fact Ziggy over at FSU fan who is not a Joubert fan at all, said Joubert was the only man who was on his music the entire time.
Last edited by bekalc; 03-24-2010 at 10:37 PM.
ITA agree wallylutz. There's too many pros in Chan's box versus that one jump in Joubert.
I agree. Tomas's PB SP score is 81, and he always goes for the 4-3, Adrian did 4-3 and got a 72! In the LP, the quad makes a difference, but in the SP it seems like it really doesn't.
Yes, I'm thinking Jeremy doesn't skate with enough confidence and maybe doesn't give the judges the impression that he knows he can deliver a strong performance when it really counts. I think this perception does hurt him in their eyes. He's so brilliant, but I think he doubts himself way too much under pressure. I really hope he delivers in the LP like I know he can!
Jumps definitely play a smaller role in the SP vs. LP because in the SP, men have 3 jumping passes with only one of them a combo plus 3 spins and 2 step sequences or 5 non-jump elements. In the LP, the number of non-jump elements stay the same at 5, but now men have 8 jumping passes with the possibility of 3 of them being combos and/or sequences. So the % weight of non-jump elements drop significantly in the LP compared to the SP. Joubert's 4T + 3T combo gave him a 4.3 points advantage over Chan and Takahashi's 3F + 3T combo but keep in mind the latter two probably scored higher GOE on this element than Joubert's combo which had a rather shaky landing with a little hesitation between the two jumps and the element didn't carry as much flow or as smooth as it could have been. So minus the effect of GOE, that 4.3 advantage would likely have been undercut by a good 1 to 1.5 points already due to lesser GOE in my estimation. Then, you proceed to add up other elements, where there are 5 non-jump elements + 2 other jumps which are identical to both Chan and Takahashi's. Factoring the various GOE and with both Chan and Takahashi getting Level 4 in their Circular Step Sequence, doubling the GOE on that, I'd say I am surprised that 4.3 points advantage still hold till the end. Given a different panel, it is possible we could find Joubert's TES falling behind both Chan and Takahashi's.
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