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    Quote Originally Posted by Poodlepal View Post
    I have to disagree with people dissing PChiddy. Don't you get it? He has such DEEEEEEEEEEP edges! Who cares if he doesn't try a quad, or connect with the audience? His edges are so DEEEEEEEEP! In fact, as I was watching him skate, I kept thinking that he might accidentally cut all the way through the ice. Maybe he made the rut that Johnny slipped on in the Olys.
    Ok, then Chan really should switch decipline to ice dance. This is men's skating! What is the difference between men's skating and ice dance?!

    In ice dance, it needs connection with the audience too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sorcerer View Post
    According to this article
    http://iceblue.cocolog-nifty.com/fig...3/28-0242.html
    Nobu couldn't hide tears in his eyes when being interviewed after the official practce before the SP.
    The writer says everyone felt that Nobu had something depressing his mind.
    But no one knows what's wrong.

    But let's not specutate, he'll be okay, he'll deal with his problems so let's give him time..
    Thanks for sharing. The article does not say anything, except for that Nob is totally in shock and not in his usual outburst mode. I watched Fuji TV broadcast and Takeshi Honda was puzzled by the way he skated, too. I was glad that TV was classy enough to leave out Nob's interview.

    I hope that this is not going to be another trauma for him. He seems like a naive, soft-hearted boy.

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    I think it should be:
    1. Takahashi
    2. Joubert
    3. Abbott
    4. Kozuka
    5. Rippon
    6. Chan

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    Quote Originally Posted by museksk8r View Post
    I can kind of see where Johnny is coming from with that comment with the exception of Kozuka in this year's Worlds SP. Taka was making eye contact with the audience and showing great expression on his face and commitment to the choreography that really interpreted the feel of the music to Jimi Hendrix's "Bold as Love." He is growing into an entertainer and learning to come out of his shell. If what I saw yesterday is any indication, he's aware of that criticism of his skating and he is working on improving that apsect. He's no Dai yet, but give him some time. He hasn't been on the scene as long as Takahashi and doesn't yet have his reputation with the judges either. I was pleasantly surprised to see him earn an 84+ in the SP. Maybe finally the judges are starting to come around to warming up to him (I can hope).
    Dai has been quite appealing since his debut. He seems more naturally talented in that department whereas Koz would need more work.

    I read Koz realized after the Olympics that he should be more outgoing instead of just being satisfied with becoming the music. If you are attentive enough to notice that change just in a month, Koz would be very flattered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jennylovskt View Post
    Ok, then Chan really should switch decipline to ice dance. This is men's skating! What is the difference between men's skating and ice dance?!

    In ice dance, it needs connection with the audience too.
    Oh, the responses one could shoot back.

    1. Do you think Chan lacks a significant audience connection? Any more so than Abbott, Kozuka, etc? He's not a natural showman (certainly not on par with Takahashi, or even Joubert), but I think he and his programs are quite effective in that regard (I think this will be more apparent if he nails the LP).

    2. Do you think Chan is only about "deep edges?" If that were true, he wouldn't be any more successful than Laura Lepisto - a medal contender in a poor field, but under the top five when perfect. Obviously, that's not the case. I mean he gets high levels on footwork and spins (or do you think difficult spins and footwork aren't integral to figure skating?), does a full array of triples (which is admittedly the bare minimum for men, but still) and has programs that are so technically difficult, despite the lack of a quad. There's a reason he can compete with the ebst of the field, and that's why. It seems to me that your comment disregards everything he does well (which is just as reductive as the "figure jumping/ice jumping comments, or the people who disregard Joubert because of his physical attractiveness)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlad View Post
    I think it's important theme.In my opinion Joubert must be first after the short.But officials think another http://worldskating.blogspot.com/201...t-program.html
    Agreed. What is going on around....

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    Quote Originally Posted by yangjie View Post
    i know braian had less transitions than daisuke and chan,

    but how can quad jumpers have as much transitions as 3-3 jumpers do in their SP???

    thats why judges are stupid.
    I do not understand the logic of this statement.

    Joubert did a big quad/triple combo -- so he got big points for it.

    He did not do any transsitions -- so he got a lower mark in that category.

    How are the judges stupid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlattFan View Post
    If you have Universal Sports, Peter Carruthers had Johnny and Tara commentating on the pairs LP and men SP today. They pointed out some interesting stuff. Johnny said the Japanese normally do not project any emotion but Dai, boy oh boy, Dai projected like Julia Roberts in Erin Brokovich.
    Off topic, but why they are dissing Dai so much LOL.. I wouldnt want to be compared with Robert's overated and contrived performances ever!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamuraiKike View Post
    Off topic, but why they are dissing Dai so much LOL.. I wouldnt want to be compared with Robert's overated and contrived performances ever!!
    Right. Personally, I think Dai is more like Sandra Bullock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    Right. Personally, I think Dai is more like Sandra Bullock.
    Blech! Dai is clearly Kate Winslet.

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    Johnny Weir was such a fun and insightful commentator. He just nailed how I feel about Patrick Chan. Everyone says it's great and amazing, and some how I'm not computing it. Rippon is just out of this world, and my heart broke for Oda.

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    I think Daisuke was overscored about 2 ponts. He wasn't as floaty as he used to be, and the landing of some of his jumps were apparently wobbly.

    IMO It should've been,

    1. Patrick Chan
    2. Daisuke Takahashi
    3. Brian Joubert

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    Right. Personally, I think Dai is more like Sandra Bullock.
    Are you kidding me - Dai obviously has a Michael Jackson complex which is why it took me so long to warm up to his skating. When the emphasis is off his costume and hair - and on his skating - I am just enthralled with what he does on the ice.

    It may be true that skaters like Chan, Jeremy and Taka need a little more personality on the ice - but I always thought Dai needed a little less with the over-the-top "Johnny" stuff and to just let his skating speak for itself.

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    Brian Joubert was robbed of first place, plain and simple I am sick of all of this overscoring and over hype of Chan.

    BRIAN JOUBERT WORLD CHAMPION 2010!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    I do not understand the logic of this statement.

    Joubert did a big quad/triple combo -- so he got big points for it.

    He did not do any transsitions -- so he got a lower mark in that category.

    How are the judges stupid?
    I do not know what the poster may have meant, but my interpretation is that a quad takes more preparation and focus than a triple, resulting in less transitions.

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