MENS LP and the Results

**Joesitz** · 03-25-2010, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by silverlake22

I agree, I don't hate Chan, I think he's a great skater, but when he makes mistakes like that and continues to get really good scores it's just annoying. The same goes for Jeremy, he mosdef did not deserve 150 for his LP in Vancouver and even tonight he was off. I just feel it must be really frustrating for skaters like Brezina who skate a clean program and are still significantly behind an out-of-his element Chan with a few very noticable mistakes. And KVDP doing a 4-3-3 and placing behind tentative Jeremy with 2 falls, please. I know he is not artistic but if he can do a combo like that so well he deserves to be higher than 8th, it's almost like a slap in the face for him, oh you'll never be good enough to be on the World Podium even though you're the best jumper here.

Very good points to bring up. A lot of scoring was based on reputation. I think judges are frightened by the corridor.

**lavender** · 03-25-2010, 06:53 PM

Wow..only 3.9 for a imperfect quad. What's the point. Still excited for Dai...

**ARipp42014** · 03-25-2010, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by gru

So, everybody agrees with the winner? It's rather unusual

btw Swede regains second spot, (and lost it for Europeans) Does Kristoffer Berntsson still skate?

So far we're 2 for 2 on agreeing on the winner (Pang & Tong made everyone happy). I'm sure people would be happy to see Voir or Merlie win tomorrow in the FD but it's the ladies we'll have debates.

**BigJohn** · 03-25-2010, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by silverlake22

I agree, I don't hate Chan, I think he's a great skater, but when he makes mistakes like that and continues to get really good scores it's just annoying. The same goes for Jeremy, he mosdef did not deserve 150 for his LP in Vancouver and even tonight he was off. I just feel it must be really frustrating for skaters like Brezina who skate a clean program and are still significantly behind an out-of-his element Chan with a few very noticable mistakes. And KVDP doing a 4-3-3 and placing behind tentative Jeremy with 2 falls, please. I know he is not artistic but if he can do a combo like that so well he deserves to be higher than 8th, it's almost like a slap in the face for him, oh you'll never be good enough to be on the World Podium even though you're the best jumper here.

Again, the sport is not figure jumping.

GOD... What's wrong with people?

**cloudkicker09** · 03-25-2010, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by DriedgerC2

Right, Goebel was the chosen one.

He was the Quad King in every sense, landed more quads then anyone in competition, trademarked the three quads in the long program, and first to complete the Quad Salcow and put it in 4-3 and 4-3-2 combination.

**Joesitz** · 03-25-2010, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by silverlake22

I agree, I don't hate Chan, I think he's a great skater, but when he makes mistakes like that and continues to get really good scores it's just annoying. The same goes for Jeremy, he mosdef did not deserve 150 for his LP in Vancouver and even tonight he was off. I just feel it must be really frustrating for skaters like Brezina who skate a clean program and are still significantly behind an out-of-his element Chan with a few very noticable mistakes. And KVDP doing a 4-3-3 and placing behind tentative Jeremy with 2 falls, please. I know he is not artistic but if he can do a combo like that so well he deserves to be higher than 8th, it's almost like a slap in the face for him, oh you'll never be good enough to be on the World Podium even though you're the best jumper here.

Oh, Silverlake - so many wuzrobbed and I call on those judges to justify the lack of interest in Kevin van der Perrren.
and Big John - Kevin did a total whole package program. It was not just the jumps.

**Phoenix347** · 03-25-2010, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by ARipp42014

I can't wait for next season! Dice-K's farewell tour, the redemption of Oda, and the emergence of Michal, Adam, Kozuka, Javi, Lil Flo, Crazy Adrian, and D10. Oh and more Chiddy soundbites!

That would be a great title to a movie.

**DriedgerC2** · 03-25-2010, 07:05 PM

watchvancouver should be banned. Talking about somebody as cancer and wishing them a misfortune is PATHETIC. Get lost.

**jennylovskt** · 03-25-2010, 07:06 PM

I was sad for Jeremy. But this was from his facebook, he said, "I'm not upset! I would like back some of the points that they took from my short, but otherwise I'm 5th

not 11th!!!!"
So he's fine. I feel better.

**ARipp42014** · 03-25-2010, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by Phoenix347

That would be a great title to a movie.

I should rename that... The Oda Redemption: Nobu Comes Home

Forgot last season was Oda's redemption after the DUI! Next season, it would be from the atomic bombing of his SP at Worlds!

Glad Jeremy is looking on the bright side of things. He did finished 5th (not 11th), saved the US Team by keeping 3 spots, and look at this as just redemption from Vancouver. His tweets after the Men's event were pretty sad.

**snowflake** · 03-25-2010, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by gru

So, everybody agrees with the winner? It's rather unusual

btw Swede regains second spot, (and lost it for Europeans) Does Kristoffer Berntsson still skate?

Cool about the winner

Kristoffer is still skating, now even more inspired, I suppose. Competing for the two spots are him, Adrian and Majorov.

**chuckm** · 03-25-2010, 07:08 PM

IMO Chan was overmarked (as usual). All of his jumps were a bit off today. He doublefooted the 3A combo, his 3Z landing was on his toe, and he fell on the loop. He's not the world's greatest performer on his best days in terms of personality and connection with the audience, but today he was really buttoned-up and tight throughout his program. Sure, give him 8s on TR and CH, but he sure did not deserve 8s in PE and IN.

OTOH, Takahashi should have received 9s in PE and IN, and his overall skating skills are more than .35 higher than Chan's. On univeralsports.com, Johnny Weir noted how Daisuke skating is "warm", i.e. he brings the audience into his program. Chan is stiff and remote by comparison.