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Bennett

Record Breaker
Joined
Nov 20, 2007
Well I can tell you that over 40% here are from Japan according to: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/www.goldenskate.com/?p=tgraph@r=home_home

Check Audience there.



Visitors by Country for Goldenskate.com
Country
Percent of Site Traffic
Japan
42.5%
United States
30.6%
Germany
7.0%
Canada
4.9%
Hungary
0.5%
OTHER
14.5%


if you say japanese, I think more than 4 out of 10 people will understand here :)

I do not understand the intention with which the poster refers to those statistics, either.

Besides, GS has different stats.
http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?29978-Which-country-are-you-from
 

dlgpffps

Final Flight
Joined
Nov 14, 2009
so...what's your point?
we shouldn't come here?

Ahahah :laugh: Shoo you bad Japanese! Sayonara and don't come back!
I mean, I see why there would be a lot of Japanese members. Japanese singles skating rocks: Midori Ito, Yuka Sato, Takeshi Honda, Daisuke Takahashi, Mao Asada, Miki Ando, Yukari Nakano, Takehiko Kozuka, Akiko Suzuki, Fumie Suguri, etc. How many wonderful skaters does this nation have to be proud of?
 

Buzzz

Final Flight
Joined
Jul 26, 2003
Congratulations to the medalist. Especially to Mao for winning her second World title.
 

hellcat

Rinkside
Joined
Nov 4, 2009
I didn't know Mao had already tried her quad at the Olympics. I thought she was storing that up for Sochi :laugh: Sorry, couldn't resist.

I don't get why Yu-na's PCS is higher than Mao's, but I don't mind seeing Mao's PCS drop from her Olympic scores. Inflation was rampant then. Practically everyone's PCS here was lower than that at the Olympics. The judges are now off their Olympic-high to finally return to being reasonable in their marking. Even if Yu-na had gone clean, she would've received lower PCS than then. I think the debate comes down to why Yu-na's PCS is higher than Mao's. I'm guessing Olympic Champ bonus? Whether we like it or not, reputation and consistency play a big part in PCS. Yu-na's skating skills, interpretation, transitions and choreography weren't that bad (just bad compared to her usual self). It's her performance/execution component which should've been affected by the falls.



Exactly opposite happened in 2008 world, Mao got higher pcs thant everyone after the worst fall in her life and not doing much for about 10+ sec (20 sec I said before was probably not right). PCS is totally weird department I can't understand either.

Congrat. to Mao! This is totally undisputed clear cut Gold for her.
 

wallylutz

Medalist
Joined
Mar 23, 2010
Weir so full of himself - I find myself disagreeing with almost everything he has said in post skate analysis. He is plugging Miki - coz he wants to keep his little fans in Japan happy. Such a phony!

And Ksenia too, that a girl had like 5 jumping passes that front-loaded her program. I think she probably won the distinction of the most front-loaded female skater ever, which means her Choregraphy is basically crap. No sound program should ever have that many jumping passes front loaded one after another. No wonder, she got killed on the PCS and rightfully so. Yet, all Johnny Weir can talk about her is as though she is the best thing since sliced bread. Seriously, no. She got the jumps all right. As far as the program is concerned, lots of junior skaters know more about choregraphy than she does.
 

Mrs. P

Uno, Dos, twizzle!
Record Breaker
Joined
Dec 27, 2009
I think if Yuna was overmarked, it was in her PCS. But the placements are about right. There is no way I would put Laura above her. Maybe Miki? But I have to say, Yu-na could have totally melted down today, and she didn't, so I'm glad she can go and relax and have fun with her friends and family.
But way to go for Akiko to pull up NINE SPOTS to 11th. Nice work by Cheltzie Lee -- I see great things from her. Also a great surprise from Cynthia--she had a lot pressure to stay in the top 10 and she definitely stepped up!
 

Robeye

Final Flight
Joined
Feb 16, 2010
Well to be hornest it's the performance that counts!! Yuna deliver @ Olym and Mao deliver at this world and both performance are memorable. The only reason O might seem more glitterly is coz the whole world is watching!!

Come on, are we really being honest here? In an Olympic year the OGM trumps the Worlds gold every time. I can't believe anyone would waste a neuron to consider the question; if someone ever did a poll of the skaters, I'd bet a big portion of my bank account on that. It's why OGMs feel justified in skipping Worlds, but the World Champion will never skip the Olys unless you broke their legs. Mao did great here, the only one who really delivered in both skates, but let's be objective, it's not going down in history as an iconic skate. Yuna's OGM performances was of Usain Bolt proportions. This has nothing to do with Mao's talent; as others have mentioned, she did the best she could this year with a flawed program.
 

wallylutz

Medalist
Joined
Mar 23, 2010
Wallylutz,YES. BIG TIME. Yuna messed up some jumps but that is not so importatnt. To me that program was so flat. There is nothing appeling about it. She was skating almost like "Whatever" Her spins were awfully slow and that was terrible footwork. There is no doubt in my mind that Yuna has been overscored. It is RIDICULOUS!!

You know, I think before you suffer a hypertension, I suggest take a deep breath and check out the protocols, which are now up. Try to understand the protocols first, and if you still disagree with the results, which is fine, at least be able to state clearly why you feel the results were incorrect. Right now, all I can see is your emotions and nothing else and that's hardly enough to make a legitimate complaint.
 

Mrs. P

Uno, Dos, twizzle!
Record Breaker
Joined
Dec 27, 2009
Uhh....

How many jumping and skating content "failures" have you seen from her tonight? :confused:

Well she did get zero points for that "waltz jump" and botched that 3S, but otherwise the program is clean. Not her best performance, but not a meltdown either. You can tell that autopilot really, really was at work here.
 

hellcat

Rinkside
Joined
Nov 4, 2009
Ahahah :laugh: Shoo you bad Japanese! Sayonara and don't come back!
I mean, I see why there would be a lot of Japanese members. Japanese singles skating rocks: Midori Ito, Yuka Sato, Takeshi Honda, Daisuke Takahashi, Mao Asada, Miki Ando, Yukari Nakano, Takehiko Kozuka, Akiko Suzuki, Fumie Suguri, etc. How many wonderful skaters does this nation have to be proud of?

There's no doubt Japan is the strongest in singles, which shows in the site stat. I think you should be proud if you're japanese. I don't know why anyone would be upset having more people interested in FS.
 

Nadia01

Final Flight
Joined
Nov 10, 2009
Well she did get zero points for that "waltz jump" and botched that 3S, but otherwise the program is clean. Not her best performance, but not a meltdown either. You can tell that autopilot really, really was at work here.

But the other persosn said her LP had MANY failures.

So I was just curious as to what he saw.

I saw the popped 2A & fall on 3S.
 

wallylutz

Medalist
Joined
Mar 23, 2010
Wow, the tech specialist sure handed out DGs like candy. Has anyone been stricter than he's been today?

Amano, along with the assistant tech specialist are known for DG loving. Remember, it alwasy takes two to tango on an ISU Technical Panel. That combination certainly creates an environment for that and we kind of knew this already coming in to this competition, nothing surprising here. Asada won the World with only one ratified Triple Axel attempt, sad but true.
 

Mrs. P

Uno, Dos, twizzle!
Record Breaker
Joined
Dec 27, 2009
And Ksenia too, that a girl had like 5 jumping passes that front-loaded her program. I think she probably won the distinction of the most front-loaded female skater ever, which means her Choregraphy is basically crap. No sound program should ever have that many jumping passes front loaded one after another. No wonder, she got killed on the PCS and rightfully so. Yet, all Johnny Weir can talk about her is as though she is the best thing since sliced bread. Seriously, no. She got the jumps all right. As far as the program is concerned, lots of junior skaters know more about choregraphy than she does.

Yeah, I felt that as I was watching her program. And a lack of smoothness and polish. Laura Lepisto may have done a whole bunch of double jumps, but she did them with class and great posture. I've come to appreciate Laura's ability. I think she will be a force to be reckoned with if she stops doubling jumps.
 

ayayukiituka

On the Ice
Joined
Oct 19, 2009
Ahahah :laugh: Shoo you bad Japanese! Sayonara and don't come back!
I mean, I see why there would be a lot of Japanese members. Japanese singles skating rocks: Midori Ito, Yuka Sato, Takeshi Honda, Daisuke Takahashi, Mao Asada, Miki Ando, Yukari Nakano, Takehiko Kozuka, Akiko Suzuki, Fumie Suguri, etc. How many wonderful skaters does this nation have to be proud of?

really hope we are proud of japanese skaters...
but actually most are not. it's just sad thing. maybe after retireing we always notice how much the skater are wonderful...
 

Nadia01

Final Flight
Joined
Nov 10, 2009
really hope we are proud of japanese skaters...
but actually most are not. it's just sad thing. maybe after retireing we always notice how much the skater are wonderful...

That's so sad.

They should cherish their skaters. JP skaters are so talented and hard-working.
 

dlgpffps

Final Flight
Joined
Nov 14, 2009
There's no doubt Japan is the strongest in singles, which shows in the site stat. I think you should be proud if you're japanese. I don't know why anyone would be upset having more people interested in FS.

I'm not Japanese :) I'm just a figure skating fan who appreciates great skaters regardless of nationality.
 

chachacha

Rinkside
Joined
Jan 14, 2010
I think if Yuna was overmarked, it was in her PCS. But the placements are about right. There is no way I would put Laura above her. Maybe Miki? But I have to say, Yu-na could have totally melted down today, and she didn't, so I'm glad she can go and relax and have fun with her friends and family.
But way to go for Akiko to pull up NINE SPOTS to 11th. Nice work by Cheltzie Lee -- I see great things from her. Also a great surprise from Cynthia--she had a lot pressure to stay in the top 10 and she definitely stepped up!

Yuna Kim was NOT overmarked! She skates and acting at the same time while other don't. Seriously, Can you point any girl right now can do what Yuna did. Skating is about the whole package. Not just two tail pony tricks. Yuna should have WON this world title if that stupid japanese tech caller don't give her 0 point the her spin in the SP.
 

Mrs. P

Uno, Dos, twizzle!
Record Breaker
Joined
Dec 27, 2009
But the other persosn said her LP had MANY failures.

So I was just curious as to what he saw.

I saw the popped 2A & fall on 3S.

I know. I was just pointing out that the many failures only consisted of really two mistakes...:)

Let's just think about this.

Mao -- clean, one 3A downgrade
Yuna -- fall on 3S, waltz jump at zero points
Laura -- too many damn double jumps
Miki -- clean, but no 3-3
Cynthia -- clean, low base value
Carolina -- did hte jumps, but -GOE for wonky landings plus some DG
Akiko - singled flip
Ksenia -- fall on 3S, low difficulty
Rachael - only 3-2, singled lutz
Viktoria - clean, but low difficulty
Mirai - bad lutz landing, fall on 2Axel, edge call on second lutz, and 2DG

So Yuna did bad (for her), but in the end her difficult technical content won her out in the end.
 

Mrs. P

Uno, Dos, twizzle!
Record Breaker
Joined
Dec 27, 2009
Yuna Kim was NOT overmarked! She skates and acting at the same time while other don't. Seriously, Can you point any girl right now can do what Yuna did. Skating is about the whole package. Not just two tail pony tricks. Yuna should have WON this world title if that stupid japanese tech caller don't give her 0 point the her spin in the SP.

Uh.. I say slightly overmarked. I meant like 3-5 points. Anyone on this board knows I love Yu-na Kim. But she did not do her best today. And she deserved 0 points for that spin. She already did a rotation on the 1st missed spin, so really she shouldn't have bothered to do the second. So relax, OK?
 

chloepoco

Medalist
Joined
Nov 1, 2009
Amano, along with the assistant tech specialist are known for DG loving. Remember, it alwasy takes two to tango on an ISU Technical Panel. That combination certainly creates an environment for that and we kind of knew this already coming in to this competition, nothing surprising here. Asada won the World with only one ratified Triple Axel attempt, sad but true.


And that's one more triple axel than any other lady who skated.
 
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