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dlgpffps

Final Flight
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Nov 14, 2009
Seeing as she got 116 for her clean program at GPF, I'm not shocked. Plus, she's in the first group.

You're right, but that score didn't fail to shock me either. I thought people would start to appreciate her now that she has somewhat built her international acclaim. I'm hoping her PCS will increase substantially next year.
 

janetfan

Match Penalty
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May 15, 2009
Just wondering - Akiko did GPF, Japanese natls, 4CC, Olympics and Worlds - that is alot of events with training time needed to keep at high level. Is it too much?
 

Marrymeyunakim

On the Ice
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Dec 4, 2009
So proud of Akiko doing so well this season. A win in China, bronze in GPF and silver at Nationals. Top ten finishes in Olympics and (maybe) Worlds for her debut season really on the international scene (in terms of going to Worlds, etc. anyway).
 

Mrs. P

Uno, Dos, twizzle!
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Dec 27, 2009
Just wondering - Akiko did GPF, Japanese natls, 4CC, Olympics and Worlds - that is alot of events with training time needed to keep at high level. Is it too much?

I think everyone is getting fatigued! But yes, I think it's a lot for Akiko considering that she's only doing GP events and 4CC in 2009. I think we are so used by Akiko and her charm and skill that we forget that this is her world's championships debut!
 

silverlake22

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Nov 12, 2009
Just wondering - Akiko did GPF, Japanese natls, 4CC, Olympics and Worlds - that is alot of events with training time needed to keep at high level. Is it too much?

I think maybe. It seems to affect the younger skaters more though, I really noticed how exhausted Dennis Ten looked at Junior and Senior worlds and seeing Kwak so out of it here after being so great at 4CC and the Olympics, I think it's hard to do that many competitions in a row.
 

janetfan

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I think everyone is getting fatigued! But yes, I think it's a lot for Akiko considering that she's only doing GP events and 4CC in 2009. I think we are so used by Akiko and her charm and skill that we forget that this is her world's championships debut!

I hope she is back next season as she is one of my favorites. Love her spirit.

I did not realize this was her first Worlds!
 

Mrs. P

Uno, Dos, twizzle!
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I think maybe. It seems to affect the younger skaters more though, I really noticed how exhausted Dennis Ten looked at Junior and Senior worlds and seeing Kwak so out of it here after being so great at 4CC and the Olympics, I think it's hard to do that many competitions in a row.

The good news is that they did some great perfromances. :) I think they will learn a lot from this year and be even better in 2010-2011! I bet we'll see Ten and MJ at the GP :)
 

dlgpffps

Final Flight
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Nov 14, 2009
Everyone elses PCS were way low too, Kwak's dropped by 10 points!

What's wrong with this Worlds. Scores are nosediving in both TES and PCS. I think Mirai and Cynthia are the only skaters who got increases in PCS. Is it the skaters or the judges? Some of it definitely has to do with the infamously strict tech specialist.
 

janetfan

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I think the skaters are tired - and let's face it - the Olympics was a little lax. Te tech callers went easy and many skaters set seasons or personal bests. They are just being stricter/realistic here
 

silverlake22

Record Breaker
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Nov 12, 2009
I know. :sheesh:
And I thought her overall choreography/transition improved.

She definitely seemed faster. I think she is just very tired and her scores here were a fluke, plus I think she thought she wasn't going to the FS and was upset and then when she found out she was going it was kind of hard to get prepaired for it. Now that she's with Orser I think she'll show great improvement next season, URs aren't normally an issue for her, and she has the goods, she just needs to get tougher mentally. But hey, look how far Mirai has come in a year, so it's encouraging what a difference a good coach can make.
 

dgel

On the Ice
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Jan 23, 2004
What's wrong with this Worlds. Scores are nosediving in both TES and PCS. I think Mirai and Cynthia are the only skaters who got increases in PCS. Is it the skaters or the judges? Some of it definitely has to do with the infamously strict tech specialist.

Tech specialist has nothing to do with PCS...
 

Mrs. P

Uno, Dos, twizzle!
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What's wrong with this Worlds. Scores are nosediving in both TES and PCS. I think Mirai and Cynthia are the only skaters who got increases in PCS. Is it the skaters or the judges? Some of it definitely has to do with the infamously strict tech specialist.

It's probably a combination of both. As much as I love Min-Jung and Akiko, those performances were not their best. Those came at The Olympics, which is probably a good place to show them. I do think the drop in PCS is harsh on Akiko, she probably could have gotten 7's on some of them (like performance and intrepertation) and the DG's on Min-Jung seem a bit odd. But yeah, I think the judges have gotten out of their Olympics high and are pretty much just scoring a bit more harsher.
 

silverlake22

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The good news is that they did some great perfromances. :) I think they will learn a lot from this year and be even better in 2010-2011! I bet we'll see Ten and MJ at the GP :)

I hope so too! I just hope they don't get upset because their season's ended on a low note. They were so great earlier in the season I think they just need to remember that and not compete too much next year!
 

dlgpffps

Final Flight
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I think the skaters are tired - and let's face it - the Olympics was a little lax. Te tech callers went easy and many skaters set seasons or personal bests. They are just being stricter/realistic here

So I come back to this point: Why do we even have a Worlds weeks after the Olympic Games? It's just cruel, useless and anticlimactic.
 

skatemom1122

Final Flight
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Dec 22, 2009
FOr people like Carolina Kostner to redeem themselves and gain confidence after cracking under Olympic pressure. No one is forcing these skaters to enter! Plus, what about all those who failed to qualify for the olympics, such as Tamar Katz. She only would have competed once this year, at Euros!
 

Mrs. P

Uno, Dos, twizzle!
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I hope so too! I just hope they don't get upset because their season's ended on a low note. They were so great earlier in the season I think they just need to remember that and not compete too much next year!

I don't think Brian Orser will allow MJ to get too upset. He clearly sees the potential in her and wants her to know that despite the result, that she has it.
 
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