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    News Oda leaves Morozov, Miki stays

    http://www.jiji.com/jc/c?g=spo_30&k=2010032800264
    (sorry it's written in Japanese)

    Miki said she will live in Russia and definitely aim for Sochi.
    The contract between Oda and Morozov is expired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by younggrass View Post
    http://www.jiji.com/jc/c?g=spo_30&k=2010032800264
    (sorry it's written in Japanese)

    Miki said she will live in Russia and definitely aim for Sochi.
    The contract between Oda and Morozov is expired.
    Wow, moving! Living in Russia for the next four years! That's really a big commitment.

    I heard of Oda leaving Morosov and I can now understand that he will. It would be difficult with another language and more different lifestyle etc.

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    I guess Oda's poor finish at Vancouver and at Worlds prompted this decision by his federation. Miki is going to live in Russia that is surprising. Morozov must be leaving the US. Translation anyone?

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    when did Nikolai move his operation to Russia? I thought he was still in the US?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonichelle View Post
    when did Nikolai move his operation to Russia? I thought he was still in the US?
    He's moving his opertation to Russia now. A lot of the coaches are starting to move back now that they can actually make a good living coaching in Russia. Why wouldn't they considering the grand tradition of Russian skating and the fact that the Olympics will be in Russia?

    The same is quietly happening in Russia. A lot of the top gymanstic coaches moved to the United States. For example Alexander Alexandrov was the head of the USSR ladies (when they were just incredible/words can't describe.) He was coaching in the United States, and never got enough credit. For example if you talk to Dominque Moceanu, it wasn't Bela or Marta who taught her technical skills Alexandrov did. He also worked with Patterson when she was younger, and Mohini. To really just name a few.

    But last year Alexandrov and others like him moved back to Russia. And already their ladies are improving big time. They've got some talented Juniors who will be seniors this year. And one incredible talent who will be a Senior next year. A lot of people think the World title this year may actually come down to Russia vs China. Because both teams are a lot better than the US on bars.

    In the end, why wouldn't these coaches want to move back to their countries and ensure that the Tradition of those sports stays in their countries? Do you think it was fun for Vasiliev to watch Russian pairs not medal.
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    There is still 6 months before the 2010-2011 season starts, Miki could go to Russia, OR Find a new coach, OR Stay here in the US, OR move back to Japan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bekalc View Post
    He's moving his opertation to Russia now. A lot of the coaches are starting to move back now that they can actually make a good living coaching in Russia. Why wouldn't they considering the grand tradition of Russian skating and the fact that the Olympics will be in Russia?

    The same is quietly happening in Russia. A lot of the top gymanstic coaches moved to the United States. For example Alexander Alexandrov was the head of the USSR ladies (when they were just incredible/words can't describe.) He was coaching in the United States, and never got enough credit. For example if you talk to Dominque Moceanu, it wasn't Bela or Marta who taught her technical skills Alexandrov did. He also worked with Patterson when she was younger, and Mohini. To really just name a few.

    But last year Alexandrov and others like him moved back to Russia. And already their ladies are improving big time. They've got some talented Juniors who will be seniors this year. And one incredible talent who will be a Senior next year. A lot of people think the World title this year may actually come down to Russia vs China. Because both teams are a lot better than the US on bars.

    In the end, why wouldn't these coaches want to move back to their countries and ensure that the Tradition of those sports stays in their countries? Do you think it was fun for Vasiliev to watch Russian pairs not medal.
    To be fair no one is forcing the Russian coaches to emigrate or stay in the US. The US has been very generous to the Russian coaches that is why they came here in the first place and the US has benefited from their expertise. It was a win win situation for everyone.

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    No, I don't think anyone is blaming Morosov for Oda's lace at Oly and nerves at Worlds. Oda also had his mother as a coach and not even his mom would be responsible for his lace! He is an adult turning 23.

    It's just that Morosov is moving to Russia because he was asked by Russian Federation to train Russian skaters. Then Oda's contract is going to expire anyway and Oda is not going to renew it. That's the story in that article.

    I think it smart for Nob not to go. He could end up Mao's situation with a parttime coach.

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    Wow the japanese ladies do like to stick around... Midori and Shizuka competed for a period larger than 2 olympic cycles and Suguri had more than a decade cometing. I believe Miki that she wants to stay till Sochi but if by 2012 the results are not favorable she may reconsider.

    Who can be a good coach for Oda?? He needs a big push in confidence.
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    Ahh Russian Miki! Haha maybe she'll get back some of the feistyness she seems to be missing because of it ! Is Oda retiring? Also Javi works with Morozov, will he be moving to Russia too?

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    I am stunned that Miki wants to stay around for Sochi and that she is following her coach to russia. I guess Morzov's relocation is the main reason for the Oda/Morozov spilt which is unfortunate, I think they were actually pretty good together. Morozov can't be blamed for all the freaky things that happen to Nobu...it was his coach that wanted him to change his laces before the olympics and Nobu insisted he keep them.

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    Oh, did they have discussions about laces prior to FS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinymavy15 View Post
    ... I guess Morzov's relocation is the main reason for the Oda/Morozov spilt which is unfortunate, I think they were actually pretty good together. Morozov can't be blamed for all the freaky things that happen to Nobu...it was his coach that wanted him to change his laces before the olympics and Nobu insisted he keep them.
    I agree. I think Morozov has done the best to give Oda confidence. I read somewhere recently that he never scolded Oda because Oda is putting way to much pressure on himself and is very a hard worker. I really hope Nobu is finding someone who can help him to solve his headcase problems.

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    Oh, that's too bad. Nobunari was doing well with Nikolai!



    I'm glad Miki stayed with Nikolai, but I'd prefer if she had another coreographer. I liked her programs this season, especially the LP, but I love Lori Nichol and it would be interesting if Miki and Lori could work together. And it's great to know Miki is aiming at Sochi!


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