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    I can't imagine that Frank didn't discuss his move with all of his students. As many pointed out, Lake Arrowhead is not convenient; so, many families might be willing to move, too, or they will stay and work with other coaches that have benefited by working with Frank.

    Michele and Karen Kwan stayed at Lake Arrowhead when they trained with Frank and one or both parents drove there daily to check in with them. I think they had a restaurant, too.

    Once a restaurant is established, it is possible for the owners to hire a good manager and be there for only part of the day. So, it's possible that all the Nagasu's will move somewhere between the rink and restaurant.

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    Frank Carroll commenting on Mirai's future commute: "From where she lives, it takes about the same time to get to Cathedral City as it does to [Toyota],"

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/olym...ct-nagasu.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverlake22 View Post
    Mirai doesn't go to school anymore, she takes her courses online through connections academy so at least she won't have to worry about getting back for school. She already drives to El Segundo to train and that isn't exactly close either. I tend to think if she wants to continue to train with Frank she'll likely rent an apartment out in Lake Arrowhead/Palm Springs and then drive back to visit her family on the weekends. She's not a baby, she's turning 17 in a couple weeks and a lot of kids are 17 when they go off to college. I think Mirai could handle living by herself for 5 days at a time, likely she could find a fellow skater to share an apartment with or something and that could make it easier.
    I didin't realize Mirai was taking online courses. Yes, I guess they could commute then, I know she is almost 17, but she is a very young 17, I can't see her living alone at all yet. Not to mention her parents probably cant afford to set her up in a apartment. Housing in the LA area is not cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by autounion View Post
    Frank Carroll commenting on Mirai's future commute: "From where she lives, it takes about the same time to get to Cathedral City as it does to [Toyota],"
    Frank's overstating it a little bit; Arcadia is definitely going in the direction of Cathedral City if you're leaving Los Angeles, but it's still at least a two hour drive. Arcadia to El Segundo is a pain, but if Mirai starts training crack-of-dawn like most skaters, it would probably only take an hour to get there. I used to work in El Segundo, and knew many people who made similar commutes. It's not fun but it's doable. Arcadia/Cathedral City isn't really doable on a daily basis.

    I'm betting that Mirai will have some good sponsorship money for next season, and real estate prices crashed HARD in that part of California with the recession. No doubt Team Mirai will have some kind of part-time living situation figured out for her training once the new rink opens. It's not unusual for skaters to live away from family for better training conditions, and Mirai's getting to an age where she should be able to handle it well. Kristi Yamaguchi moved to Canada at around the same age when Christy Ness moved, so this is pretty small potatoes. I'm not worried about this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinymavy15 View Post
    I didin't realize Mirai was taking online courses. Yes, I guess they could commute then, I know she is almost 17, but she is a very young 17, I can't see her living alone at all yet. Not to mention her parents probably cant afford to set her up in a apartment. Housing in the LA area is not cheap.
    Her parents are probably pretty well off considering they live in Arcadia, it's a very expensive town....most of the houses there sell for 3/4 of a million or more. Mirai I think actually seems pretty self-sufficient, and if she found a training mate around her age to stay with I think she would be fine. The smartest thing would probably be to have the family move somewhere equidistant between the new rink and the restaurant, and if money is an issue this would also be smart as they can probably sell their house in Arcadia for a lot of money and buy something cheaper in another town.

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    Mirai's parents are not well off, remeber they could not even afford to come to Vancouver with Mirai until she got the Panasonic deal. I don't know how much she got for this endorsement and if she will get more in the off season but after not medaling at worlds I would not bet on it. If she wins Nationals next year than she will become a in-demand poster girl but she still has something to prove to marketing departments who don't recognize talent as well as we can.

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    Here is some news from new Hersh column:

    "Nagasu, who lives 45 miles from El Segundo and about 100 miles from Cathedral City, will be along for the ride.

    ``Yes, I'm going with him,'' she said in the first message, then added, ``If you could raise money so I can move there that'd be great. . . lol.''

    Nagasu, 16, was texting from Fort Myers, Florida, where she will be performing in the Smucker's Stars on Ice show that opens a 41-city tour Thursday night. Stars on Ice plays the Allstate Arena in Rosemont, Ill., May 1, the Staples Center in Los Angeles May 20 and the Honda Center in Anaheim, Calif. May 21.

    ``I'm skating a show today in brand new skates...literally!!!'' Nagasu texted.

    She had returned to her California home Monday from the World Championships in Turin, Italy, then flew east Wednesday with her ``chaperon,'' Olympic champion Evan Lysacek.
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    Thanks janetfan.

    I guess this means that Mirai plans on commuting from Arcadia. I guess she will be getting her driver's permit soon so maybe she can drive herself by the time the new rink opens.

    I am glad that she is officially staying with Frank, it would be tragic to see them seperate after such an amazing improvement in her skating.

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    He didn't say anything about Evan, and Evan didn't say anything on his site, facebook, etc. I thought he was going to continue competing.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinymavy15 View Post
    Mirai's parents are not well off, remeber they could not even afford to come to Vancouver with Mirai until she got the Panasonic deal. I don't know how much she got for this endorsement and if she will get more in the off season but after not medaling at worlds I would not bet on it. If she wins Nationals next year than she will become a in-demand poster girl but she still has something to prove to marketing departments who don't recognize talent as well as we can.
    All the more reason to sell their house in fancy Arcadia and move somewhere less expensive, even with the housing market down, houses in Arcadia will still sell for a lot of money...

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverlake22 View Post
    All the more reason to sell their house in fancy Arcadia and move somewhere less expensive, even with the housing market down, houses in Arcadia will still sell for a lot of money...
    Maybe they like where they live - and did you consider if they sold in this market they might lose alot?
    Being in the restaurant biz is not so easy. If anyone needs to be close to work it is probably Mirai's father. He also needs to be close to good wholesale markets and I doubt if living in the desert or mountains is the best place to get the freshest fish

    Anyway - I am sure Mirai's family is thinking about the possibilties and will do what is best for the family.

    I bet it would help if Evan returns to training. He could give Mirai rides occassionaly and maybe even rent a place and let her stay there some of the time. She seems like a little sister to him so that could be a possibilty.

    Even better would be if Caroline switched to Rafael and moved out near Lake Arrowhead. Then the two of them could be roomies

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    Quote Originally Posted by janetfan View Post
    Maybe they like where they live - and did you consider if they sold in this market they might lose alot?
    Being in the restaurant biz is not so easy. If anyone needs to be close to work it is probably Mirai's father. He also needs to be close to good wholesale markets and I doubt if living in the desert or mountains is the best place to get the freshest fish

    Anyway - I am sure Mirai's family is thinking about the possibilties and will do what is best for the family.

    I bet it would help if Evan returns to training. He could give Mirai rides occassionaly and maybe even rent a place and let her stay there some of the time. She seems like a little sister to him so that could be a possibilty.

    Even better would be if Caroline switched to Rafael and moved out near Lake Arrowhead. Then the two of them could be roomies
    Those both sound like great ideas! I know Caroline and Mirai are good friends, and if Caroline goes to Rafael then maybe she'll have a comeback ! And yeah it does seem like Evan and Mirai are buddies, apparently Evan taught her how to drive last summer .

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    Quote Originally Posted by janetfan View Post
    I bet it would help if Evan returns to training. He could give Mirai rides occassionaly and maybe even rent a place and let her stay there some of the time. She seems like a little sister to him so that could be a possibilty.
    Yeah, Evan really is a class act. He's been a positive influence and does care about Mirai. I'm sure Mirai and her family feel so much more at ease that Evan is there when she's on the road with Stars On Ice for the first time.

    For Mirai's sake, I hope Evan will choose to continue to compete, and stays with Frank. But I am not so confident about that......

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    Quote Originally Posted by autounion View Post
    Yeah, Evan really is a class act. He's been a positive influence and does care about Mirai. I'm sure Mirai and her family feel so much more at ease that Evan is there when she's on the road with Stars On Ice for the first time.

    For Mirai's sake, I hope Evan will choose to continue to compete, and stays with Frank. But I am not so confident about that......
    Personally I would be VERY surprised if Evan competed again, especially as soon as next season. He is signed on for the whole SOI run and then will certainly feel like a vacation. He has been on the senior scene for about 6-7 years...he won everything of importance, I really don't see him coming back. I would love to see him live near Mirai, maybe start working as an assistnt coach to Frank. Mirai and Evan are just so cute together, he does seem like a big brother or cousin to her.

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