With that said, you are correct that Kim has done well because she is/was an all-around skater, not because she was the best at jumping, spirals, spins or artistry. She has no crippling weakness (perhaps with the exception of her current lack of 3Lo in competition). However I do wonder why you said this:
How do you think she has changed the course of this sport for the century to come?history will surely remember this amazing skater who changed the course of this sport most likely for the century to come
Edited to add: Hm, I suppose it wasn't really a comparison, more of citing an example of how a good team (main coach, specialists, choreographers) can bring about good results. And her team is the one I'm most familiar with...
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It's also kind of telling that other than Ito you used only clips of men. Why not any women? Men obviously are better jumpers than women. If Yuna's peers are only men, I think it says a lot about the quality of Yuna's jumps.
ETA: Oops, I checked the protocols. Yuna did receive 2.2 GOE for the 3-3 combo, and deservedly so. Yet, I'm still perplexed as to why you would score her a +1 for her combo since in comparison to the other ladies, Yuna's jumps were superior.
Nope. A lot of people make a huge fuss over Yuna's 3-3. It was even featured in NYT:More likely than not, they were saying her combo is the best in the competition since no other lady is doing a Triple Lutz + Triple Toe combo and very few even do Triple-Triple in 2010.
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I think many Japanese people struggle when they have to adapt to live in a foreign country and Mao Asada is one of them. It's more than just a question of language, which is obviously an issue but it's more than that. That said, a few Japanese also thrived on not having to deal with the high pressure lifestyle in Japan and are eager to live overseas, I know one such guy who lives here in Seattle, even if it means leaving his wife and daughter back home in Japan and only see them maybe once a year for a few days.
Team Mao's plan of building a coaching team in Japan is not a bad idea in principle. Personaly, I think Mao should leave Japan for training but I can also understand why she doesn't want to. Given this constraint, the question to be asked is whether Mao Asada can assemble a team that can address the various issues that she needs to tackle urgently. There are many aspects of her skating that she needs to either correct or improve, ranging from her inability to do some jumps to the gaps in her choreography and suitability of her interpretation. Can all these questions be addressed with a coaching team in Japan? Some people pointed to her recent win in Torino as the proof that everything seems to be on track. I think not. The fact is she won the Worlds with 2 major downgrades, one in SP and LP each + one major competitior was absent and the other, had a melt down. Don't count on this to happen again. Not to mention, there are quite a few other women not far behind and eager to move up, including some we haven't yet seen in the Senior rank yet. 4 years is a long time. In 4 years, it is quite likely that Kim and Rochette won't be her only competitors, assuming they haven't retired by then. The challenge may be a lot closer than she can envision at this time. Hence, the success of such arrangement cannot be accurately measured simply by her recent win over Kim, that would be short-sighted way to look at this given that her ultimate goal is an Olympic Gold medal in 4 years. We will know soon enough whether such arrangement works by looking at the various issues that Asada needs to work. If she improves, we'll notice her overall score potential will go up as well. Otherwise, she will continue to be a distant 2nd or 3rd to Yu-Na Kim.
I think Mao is aware that she has issues in her skating that needs to be addressed, despite her recent win. She has stated that she wants someone to help her technically and also that she wants a change in her programs next season. So it seems that people around her (such as Kozuka's father) are giving her the advice that she needs now. Hopefully, her new coaching arrangement works but I think the changes may be more gradual than we expect.
Then how do you explain her scores then wally? Do you really think that the judges are so oblivious to YuNa's medicore jumps? Besides, it's a known fact that she would have killed in the men's competition with her scores. She would have won and your saying she is medicore.
I love how every thread that talks about a female skater on this forum turns into a YUNA thread.
Seriously folks, can't you give it a rest?
I kind of agree that it might take a while for Mao to fully revise her jump technique, because I think Team Mao is basically going to try and do this with a Japanese team. I remember Honda Takeshi had great jump technique, just as Dai now has a great technique. I love Dai's toe pick. He actually hardly has one, he just sort of lightly places his pick on the ice and then floats high up into the air. I'd love for some of that to rub off on Mao!
But having the ability to do a jump well is totally different from being able to teach it, and so teaching Mao the technique will probably have to entail an element of trial and error in the training process. But I think they have excellent examples to emulate, people who are able to analyze the jumps with high-tech equipment and scientific knowledge, as well as Mao, who has the talent and perseverance to master it.