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Thread: what skaters do you love who never really made it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bijoux View Post
    so interesting janetfan...I was in love with this harvard man, georgeous skater in high school. he is still alive? what is he up to, i wonder?
    His accomplishments - on and off the ice - dwarf most skaters mentioned on this thread.
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    "Following his competitive career, and after Harvard, Petkevich attended Oxford University as a Rhodes scholar, earning a Ph.D. in cell biology. Later he pursued a career in investment banking[citation needed].

    Petkevich is the author of Figure Skating: Championship Techniques (ISBN 0-452-26209-7), one of the standard reference works on figure skating technique. He has also served as a figure skating analyst for NBC, CBS, and ESPN.

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    Sasha Cohen is on the top of my list. Then it's Alissa Czisny and Alexander Abt. Ryan Bradley wasn't my favorite, but now I like him a lot. I hope Jeremy Abbott won't be on this list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by janetfan View Post
    His accomplishments - on and off the ice - dwarf most skaters mentioned on this thread.
    From wiki:

    "Following his competitive career, and after Harvard, Petkevich attended Oxford University as a Rhodes scholar, earning a Ph.D. in cell biology. Later he pursued a career in investment banking[citation needed].

    Petkevich is the author of Figure Skating: Championship Techniques (ISBN 0-452-26209-7), one of the standard reference works on figure skating technique. He has also served as a figure skating analyst for NBC, CBS, and ESPN.
    that video was special. Thanks Janetfan! I think men skaters used to care more about carriage and lines. Also, hardly any of them do split leaps anymore and it looks so good on the men. the musicality in this piece is amazing...

    I'm sure my list would be longer if I had a longer time of reference but only Alissa Czisny and Ryan Bradley are on mine for now. They are just lovely skaters and it's so heartbreaking that they had such little success on the international stage.
    We'll see how Jeremy Abbott does next season but for no he's also on my list, although I'm not as drawn to his skating as Ryan's or Alissa's.

    I guess "making it" is a relative term. I knew someone would mention Sasha Cohen at some point but I wouldn't say she didn't "make it." It was very disappointing to see her fall short of gold so many times but three world medals and an Olympic silver medal plus all her national and Grand prix medals - I'd say most skaters would love to have that career.
    It's a far cry from Alissa or Ryan who never came close to medaling at worlds and never even made it to the Olympics.

    I mean, Sasha is arguably more accomplished than Johnny Weir since she has an Olympic medal and he doesn't. Does Johnny qualify as someone who didn't make it? Not to me, but I guess you could say his career didn't quite meet expectations. Sasha's didn't either but the expectations were gold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Layfan View Post
    I guess "making it" is a relative term. I knew someone would mention Sasha Cohen at some point but I wouldn't say she didn't "make it." It was very disappointing to see her fall short of gold so many times but three world medals and an Olympic silver medal plus all her national and Grand prix medals - I'd say most skaters would love to have that career.
    It's a far cry from Alissa or Ryan who never came close to medaling at worlds and never even made it to the Olympics.

    I mean, Sasha is arguably more accomplished than Johnny Weir since she has an Olympic medal and he doesn't. Does Johnny qualify as someone who didn't make it? Not to me, but I guess you could say his career didn't quite meet expectations. Sasha's didn't either but the expectations were gold.
    Yes, I believe Johnny Weir should be on this list too.

    I guess "never made it" means that you think/believe where the skater should belong to but she/he has never reached to there. With Sasha Cohen's talent, she ought to be on the top of many international podiums. She never has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jennylovskt View Post
    Yes, I believe Johnny Weir should be on this list too.

    I guess "never made it" means that you think/believe where the skater should belong to but she/he has never reached to there. With Sasha Cohen's talent, she ought to be on the top of many international podiums. She never has.
    Indeed. It was especially wrenching at the 2006 worlds, when she should have run away with the gold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Layfan View Post
    Indeed. It was especially wrenching at the 2006 worlds, when she should have run away with the gold.
    Despite many negative comments posted here about Sasha from time to time- she has never been one to make excuses or show bad sportsmanship.

    She skated in '06 Torino with an injury and then in practice picked up another injury. She never complained - or made excuses. She was a gracious Silver medalist and a few weeks later at Worlds she was neither physically or mentally prepared to do her best.

    Think of Yuna after 2010 Vancouver - and how she was not prepared to do her best at Worlds. Sasha was not only battling lingering injuries, but also has a major Olympic hangover.

    So Kimmie had the SOHL and won......... again - that is just skating.

    I think as years go by Sasha will have a very strong legacy. Just watch so many of today's skaters - especially the newest ones coming up. Who do they skate like? Sarah, Shiz, Irina, Michelle?.....................

    It is easy to see that many of today's young skater's have been influenced by Sasha's exquisite skating - and her beautiful flexibilty - what more could a skater hope for?

    I don't think Sasha needs more medals - or better medals - to be remembered as one of the very most uniquely gifted skaters to ever grace the ice.

    I watch Sasha's clips from when she was 14-15 - and still compare most new "baby skaters" using Sasha as the standard. I think many of us do - whether we admit it or not.

    Sasha changed the standards for beauty and grace in Ladies skating and that is quite a legacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by janetfan View Post
    Despite many negative comments posted here about Sasha from time to time- she has never been one to make excuses or show bad sportsmanship.

    She skated in '06 Torino with an injury and then in practice picked up another injury. She never complained - or made excuses. She was a gracious Silver medalist and a few weeks later at Worlds she was neither physically or mentally prepared to do her best.

    Think of Yuna after 2010 Vancouver - and how she was not prepared to do her best at Worlds. Sasha was not only battling lingering injuries, but also has a major Olympic hangover.

    So Kimmie had the SOHL and won......... again - that is just skating.

    I think as years go by Sasha will have a very strong legacy. Just watch so many of today's skaters - especially the newest ones coming up. Who do they skate like? Sarah, Shiz, Irina, Michelle?.....................

    It is easy to see that many of today's young skater's have been influenced by Sasha's exquisite skating - and her beautiful flexibilty - what more could a skater hope for?

    I don't think Sasha needs more medals - or better medals - to be remembered as one of the very most uniquely gifted skaters to ever grace the ice.

    I watch Sasha's clips from when she was 14-15 - and still compare most new "baby skaters" using Sasha as the standard. I think many of us do - whether we admit it or not.

    Sasha changed the standards for beauty and grace in Ladies skating and that is quite a legacy.

    Well, I agree, of course. Sasha is one of my all time favorite skaters and I agree she has a legacy. Still, one of the saddest moments of figure skating for me was when she fell in her LP in Torino and let the gold slip. But I'd definetely categorize her career as successful.
    You make a good point about how difficult it is to skate at worlds after the Olympics.

    And I so agree that Sasha never whined or made excuses. She only ever blamed herself so I'm sometimes confused about why some people think she was so ungracious. She never was the type to burst into tears after a great or bad skate, maybe that bothers people. Not me though.

    p.s. Despite her not winning gold at 2006 worlds, I think Sasha's legacy is stronger than Kimmie's. So yeah, in the end I definitely wouldn't say she was a skater who didn't make it. Just one of the most talented skaters never to win a world or OG.
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    Rohene, for sure. I've seen him skate in a couple of exhibitions and he blew me away. He does some things that few male skaters do-- like Ina Bauers and layback spins, but still looks totally masculine out there on the ice. If only he could have conquered his nerves and made his mark competitively, or better yet--if there were still some high-profile skating tours besides SOI. He's one of the best show skaters around.

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    Yukina Ota and Matt Savoie.

    People do want to skate like Sasha but they also want to skate like Michelle. Still no one has mastered the change of edge of the spiral that Michelle does but almost everyone continues to do it.

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    Janetfan, I absolutely agree with you about Sasha. She's a pretty successful skater by most standards, especially for someone who does have a bit of the "head case" gene. Several world medals, an Olympic silver, and, as you say, a legacy--a few moves that she seems to have been the first to do are now almost standard, though her version is still the best. Like you, I compare the new skaters with Sasha when she first came onto the scene. Few of them measure up. When I look back at that first senior skate of hers, where she won the silver, I see nothing juniorish about her. She wasn't primordial or "promising." She delivered right away.

    As for skaters who didn't have the hoped-for career, certainly Naomi Nari Nam is near the top of that list. She seemed to have it all, and were it not for the injury, she would only have gotten better. I was thrilled to see her back as a pairs skater, even if only briefly. In that league is another promising lady I saw only once, Deanna Stellatto. (I'm not sure of the spelling.) She had a career-ending back injury way too early.

    Alissa is a magnificent skater in so many ways, but she never was able to achieve consistency or a cool head under pressure. I hope she chooses a show-skating career for awhile, because when the heat is off her, she's going to be wonderful.

    Another skater who was around briefly and seemed to have an interesting style was Aren Nielsen, who won a bronze in men's singles somewhere in the nineties, I think. I was impressed with him. He did a great long program to the sound track for The Rocketeer.

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    Matt Savoie (but I'm so happy he went to 2002 Worlds and 2006 Worlds, and made the US Olympic team in 2006), Katrina Hacker, Yukina Ota, Alexander Abt, Naomi Nari Nam,
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    I'm sure I'll think of others...

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