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Thread: Excellent Stats: Yuna and Mao, Senior Seasons ( brought from Yuna Forum )

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    Excellent Stats: Yuna and Mao, Senior Seasons ( brought from Yuna Forum )

    Dedicated to Mao/Yuna Fans: Excellent Stats.

    Summary: Senior International Events_ Yuna Kim vs. Mao Asada

    Kim Yuna's Resume: 4 Seasons (2006-2010)
    Completed 18 events.
    Overall: 13 gold 2 silver 3 bronze (never been out of the podium from her entire senior career)
     Olympic Champion
     World Championships (1 gold, 1 silver, 2 bronze)
     Grand Prix Final, qualified for all four (3 gold, 1 silver)
     Four Continents (1 gold, skipped 3 events)
     7 gold, 1 Bronze in other international events
     Personal Best: 78.50SP 150.06FP 228.56T, Vancouver Olympic 2010
     Personal Low: 168.48 Grand Prix Skate, 2006
     Memorable Moment: First lady ever to surpass 200 marks (207.71 World Champ, 2009)
     World Record Holder of 228.56 in Vancouver Olympic, 2010
     Second Personal Best Record; 210.03 Trophee Eric Bombard, 2009
     Grand Slam: Won Winter Olympic, World Championships, Grand Prix Final, Four Continents.
     The only lady in figure skating history who has never been out of the podium from her entire Junior/Senior Career.
     Currently tied with Chen Lu for most WC medals (4) in Asia.
     Season Best 2009-2010; 201.25

    Mao Asada's Resume: 4.5 Seasons (2005-2010)
    Completed 22 events.
    Overall: 11 gold 7 silver 2 bronze (2 times thrown out of the podium)
     Olympic Silver Medalist
     World Championships (2 gold, 1 silver, out of podium in 2009)
     Grand Prix Final, did not qualified for 2009 (2 gold, 2 silver)
     Four Continents (2 gold, 1 bronze, skipped 1 event)
     5 gold, 3 silver, 1 bronze in other international events, 5th at Rostelecom Cup
     Personal Best: 205.50 Vancouver Olympic, 2010
     Personal Low: 150.28 Grand Prix Trophee, 2009
     Season Best 2007-2008; 185.57

    10 Events Meeting between Kim and Asada (2006-2010)

    Event Yuna Mao (Point Diff.)
    2006-2007
    World Championships 186.14 < 194.45 (8.31)
    Grand Prix Final 184.20 > 172.52 (11.68)
    2007-2008
    World Championships 183.23 < 185.56 (2.33)
    Grand Prix Final 196.83 > 191.59 (5.24)
    2008-2009
    World Championships 207.71 > 188.09 (19.62)
    Four Continents Championships 189.07 > 176.52 (12.55)
    Grand Prix Final 186.35 < 188.55 (2.2)
    2009-2010
    Winter Olympic 228.56 > 205.50 (23.06)
    World Championships 190.79 < 197.58 (6.79)
    Trophee Eric Bombard 210.03 > 173.99 (36.04)

    Overall: Yuna 6 Wins vs. Mao 4 Wins
    Average Point Differences when Yuna won: 18.03
    Average Point Differences when Mao won: 4.90
    Yuna 7 Wins in SP vs. Mao 3 Wins
    Yuna 6 Wins in FP vs. Mao 4 Wins
    @4 WC's: Yuna 2 Wins in SP vs. Mao 2 Wins in SP
    @4 WC's: Yuna 3 Wins in FP vs. Mao 1 Wins in FP


    Season Average Score Report Card: International Events

    Season Yuna Mao Point Diff.
    2006-2007 180.84 (4 events) << 184.43 (4 events) 3.59
    2007-2008 189.49 (4 events) >> 185.57 (5 events) 3.92
    2008-2009 193.66 (5 events) >> 182.38 (5 events) 11.28
    2009-2010 201.25 (5 events) >> 182.27 (5 events) 18.98

    Yuna Won 3 vs. Mao 1 in terms of average scores.
    Yuna's Average Career Score is 191.31 vs. Mao's 183.66
    Yuna secured top spot 13 times in SP out of 18 events, that is 72% and 12 times in FP, which is 67%.
    Mao secured top spot 6 times in SP out of 19 events, that is 32% and 9 times in FP, which is 47%.
    Yuna improved year by year vs. Mao failed to improve.
    Both had obstacles throughout their career: Yuna having health issues in 2006-7 and Mao selecting the wrong team.

    Yuna and Mao rivalry started from their junior season and ended in 2007-2008. Since then, Yuna competed against herself throughout her career. Yuna upgraded the ladies figure skating to a different level.
    They are just Amazing!!
    Last edited by Goldenskater; 04-14-2010 at 04:52 AM.

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    Don't forget Mao made 3 triple axel at oly~

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    Yuna might be uncomfortable with this kind of comparison...

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    Honestly, I don't see the point of the post, except the Yu-Na ubers wanting to raise their ego after worlds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivana View Post
    Honestly, I don't see the point of the post, except the Yu-Na ubers wanting to raise their ego after worlds.
    Anything wrong with these two talented athletes stats?

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    Ok. Thanks, but would've been nice if this stayed in Yuna forum.

    good thorough comparison though.
    Last edited by Basics; 04-13-2010 at 08:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoPC2018 View Post
    Ok. Thanks, but would've been nice if this stayed in Yuna forum.

    good thorough comparison though.
    This is their stats for four years and they both have done great. There is nothing wrong with this, I admire both ladies thou.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenskater View Post
    This is their stats for four years and they both have done great. There is nothing wrong with this, I admire both ladies thou.
    yes, there's nothing wrong with those stats, but there might be some Mao fans who do not like to see those compared marks and ur Yuna-loving emoticons, and also Yuna fans who don't want Yuna to be compared to Mao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenskater View Post
    Anything wrong with these two talented athletes stats?
    Nothing wrong with the stats if it stayed only by the stats. The last paragraph is IMO too much to be posted outside Yu-Na forum, there is no need for another Yu-Na vs. Mao bashing.

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    I posted the following in the rivalry thread. It's more neutral and less Yuna-centric


    Yuna
    1 Olympic Gold (2010)
    1 World Gold (2009)
    3 GPF Gold (2006,2007,2009)
    1 4CC Gold (2009)
    7 GP Event Gold (1-2006, 2-2007, 2-2008, 2-2009)
    1 Junior Worlds Gold (2006)
    1 JGPF Gold (2006)
    3 JGP Event Gold (1-2004, 2-2005)
    1 World Silver (2010)
    1 GPF Silver (2008)
    1 Junior World Silver (2005)
    1 JGPF Silver (2005)
    1 JGP Event Silver (2004)
    2 World Bronze (2007 and 2008)
    1 GP Event Bronze (2006)

    TOTAL: 26 medals (8 junior, 18 senior)

    Mao
    2 World Gold (2008 and 2010)
    2 4CC Gold (2008 and 2010)
    2 GPF Gold (2005 and 2008)
    5 GP Event Gold (1-2005, 1-2006, 2-2007, 1-2008)
    1 Junior World Gold (1-2005)
    1 JGPF Gold (1-2004)
    2 JGP Event Gold (2-2004)
    1 Olympic Silver (2010)
    1 World Silver (2007)
    2 GPF Silver (2006 and 2007)
    3 GP Event Silver (1-2005, 1-2008 1-2009)
    1 Junior World Silver (2006)
    1 4CC Bronze (2009)
    1 GP Event Bronze (2006)

    TOTAL = 25 medals (5 junior, 20 senior)

    Interesting stats...

    Mao's extra senior medals came from the fact she started on the senior GP a year earlier than Yuna.

    So if you looked strictly between 2006-2007 and now, when they both were seniors the break downs is this:
    Yuna: 18 senior international medals
    Mao: 17 senior international medals


    Who wins...
    (Based on face-to-face competition)
    Olympics? Yuna (1-0)
    Worlds? Mao (3-1) [Mao beat Yuna in 2007 as far as placement]
    GPF? Yuna (2-1) [Not counting 2009 since Mao was not there and not counting the 2005 since Yuna was not there. Yuna beat Mao in 2006 and 2007; Mao beat Yuna in 2008]
    Trophee 2009? Yuna (1-0) [Only time in GP or JGP that they competed against each other)
    4CC? Yuna (1-0) [However Mao wins in terms of medals 3-1, but two of those medals came when Yuna was not there]
    Junior Worlds? Tie (1-1) [Mao 2005, Yuna 2006]
    JGPF? Mao (1-0) [Yu-na won the following year, but Mao was on the SGPF by then]

    Face to face?
    Yuna 7, Mao 6
    (Senior: Yuna 6 [06 and 07 GPF; 09 Worlds; 09 4CC; 09 TEB; 10 Olympics], Mao 4 [07, 08 and 10 Worlds and 08 GPF )

    GP Stats
    In 2006 GP Series, Mao and Yuna won gold for 2 of the 6 events
    In 2007 GP Series, Mao and Yuna won gold for 4 of the 6 events
    In 2008 GP Series, Mao and Yuna won gold for 3 of the 6 events
    In the 2009 GP Series, Yuna won both golds and Mao won none.
    In the GPF, Either Yuna or Mao have won since 2005 and won 8 out of 15 medals (53 percent) [Others on the Podium? Irina Slutskaya, 2005; Yukari Nankano, 2005; Sarah Meier, 2006; Carolina Kostner 2007 and 2008; Miki Ando 2009; Akiko Suzuki, 2009]
    In the Worlds -- Mao and Yuna have 7 out of the 12 medals (58 percent!) [Others on the podium? Miki Ando, 2007 and 2009; Carolina Kostner, 2008; Joannie Rochette, 2009; Laura Lepisto, 2010]

    ** Mao currently has the Axel [8.2], Flip [5.5], Loop [5.0] and Toe Loop [4] while Yuna has the Lutz [6], Flip [5.5], Salchow, [4.5] and Toe Lop [4]. If you add it up Mao has 22.70 base points in her triples arsenal while Yuna has 20 base points. Where Yuna racks up the extra points is how she combines those jumps (3-3, 2A-3T. 2A-2T-2L). Mao currently has no 3-3, but does have a 3F-2T-2L.

    ***
    Outside the stats...
    ** Yuna herself has said that she would not be where she is without her rivalry with Mao. The stats above clearly show this.
    ** Whether it takes mistakes for people to beat Yuna, the fact is that Yuna still opens the doors by making those mistakes. And guess what the only skater to take advantage of that? Mao. If you look at Yuna's programs that had falls, Mao was right there to skate clean.
    ** On the other hand, Mao is not as COP smart as Yuna, which has really hurt her in 2009-2010. I think Mao should have risked the flutz instead of taking it out of her program.
    ** I love stats!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivana View Post
    Nothing wrong with the stats if it stayed only by the stats. The last paragraph is IMO too much to be posted outside Yu-Na forum, there is no need for another Yu-Na vs. Mao bashing.
    Like I said before, I love both skaters for their great accomplishments. That's all~

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    In short: Yuna wins!

    But they are both amazing.

    End of story

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenskater View Post
    Anything wrong with these two talented athletes stats?
    I think that some of the posters here feel that there is nothing wrong with comparing stats of both skaters, but it's just that it seems too "Yuna-centric". I understand this is from the Yuna Forum, but the comments and emoticons that come along with the stats aren't necessarily "neutral".

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    These stats were already done in another thread. I see a lot of posts from people who seemed to have joined to discuss YUNA exclusively and her alledged superiority to all creatures. It's so old already.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverlake22 View Post
    In short: Yuna wins!

    But they are both amazing.

    End of story
    Agree, they are just FANTASTIC!~

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